-1 = 1 - how do i prove this wrong?

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-1 = 1 - how do i prove this wrong?

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  1. furrer

    furrer New Member

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    A little question as usual (and no, this is not homework, its exams time :( ):
    We probably all now this one:

    1 = sqrt(1) = sqrt (1*1) = sqrt (-1)^2 = -1

    or

    1 = -1

    I wikid it, but the result of me not being born in an english-speaking country "pawned" me!
     
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    Meee sqrt(-1) = i

    Anyways this step sqrt(1*1) = sqrt(-1) is invalid as far as I know.
     
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    I know, but how do I prove this?
     
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    I just thought I might've remembered wrong. Anyway, nonexisting numbers don't count :p


    And the step is sqrt (1*1) = sqrt (-1)^2 which looks legit
     
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    You can't thats the whole point. The initial proof is invalid, the person who posted it didn't prove it effectively so really all you should have to say is sqrt(1*1) != sqrt(-1)^2 can you give me the wiki link or tell me more about the question?
     
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    Whoever wrote this "proof" is taking advantage of the +- nature or square roots. The real equation should be: +-1 = +-sqrt(1) = +-sqrt (1*1) = +-sqrt (-1)^2 = +-1 which holds true.
     
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    My intial thought was along those lines. Until I started reading these notes and the thing stopped making any sense. Well, that's math for you.

    I think the proof you're looking for would be:
    sqrt(1) = 1 v sqrt(1) = -1
     
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    bunkerbuster[E] New Member

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    yea some one else had it

    (-1)^2 implies +-1

    and then substitute both back into "sqrt(x)"
    one works one doesnt therefore -1 is invalid
     
  10. Lobsterlegs

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    Wait, you can't take a Sqrt out of a negative number.
    What's there to proove?
     
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    actually the square root of -1 equals i
    its an imaginary number, yes, but its still a number
     
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    No one has answert my question, and it doesnt seem that anybody will so thread closed.
     
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