A question to all non-Christians

What does your religion state about the Origin of Man? We all know the Christian stance on it, but I'm afraid my knowledge in other religions is rather lacking on that point?

 

let's see, im not religious, but i have got a pretty theorie
in the beggining there was nothing, not even time
but that cannot exist
so a paradox was created
and the energy from that paradox created the big bang


hinduism and buddhism believe the same thing as each other i thought
in the beggining there was the fire of life
the fire leaked and from it perfect spills life was born
but that life was contaminated
so thelife had to go through multiple lives to clean itself


judaïsm and islam believe the same as christianity about their origin because they originated from the same faith, judaïsm in the hundred years around Jezus Christ, who wasnt a Christian by the way, but a jew, becuase only after his death people started to believe he was the messias

 

Atheist.
Big Bang created the universe and everything in it. Then only on hospitable planets (the only known one being Earth at the moment) in the right conditions organic compounds were chemically synthesized. Then RNA producing molecules evolved then DNA molecules, then single celled bacteria, then multicellular organisms.
This all took place over a period of four and a half billion years, not the six days that it took for Christians.

 

They beat us to it by a small margin

 

Atheism isn't a religion =D

Actually (This is my opinion, I'm a middle liner)....In the Bible and my religion's holy book, it makes numerous references to thousands of years being a blink of an eye to God. How do we know how long those 'six days' were?

Anyway.
If what Idjffrie said was true, Buddhism and Hinduism have awesome beliefs. I've always been a fan of reincarnation, even though I'm Christian.

I've got odd ones I think.

 

@ kuvasz. Hehe, we'll catch up eventually... Trust me.
@ Praetor Fenix. Well if someone asks me what religion I am, I'd tell them I'm an Atheist. It might not be one strictly by definition, but colloquially it certainly is. Also, if thousands of years happen in the blink of an eye to god, all that means is that six days happens even quicker. After all, six years is shorter than a thousand years, so your quote isn't necessarily relevant.

 

He meant it the other way round, that it was six days for God to create everything, and thus a very long time for us earthlings.

 

A day would be the same length for us as it would for a god, the only difference may be that the god experiences it differently. Saying that for a god a thousand years pass in a blink of an eye doesn't mean that the god has super long days. Those thousand years are made up of ~365, 250 days and the Earth and everything on it was supposedly created in 6 of those days. Also, unless the physical Earth and Sun were made in the very first day, it is impossible to measure it in days, years, etc, seeing as a day is measured in the time it takes for that celestial body to spin around once and a year is the time it takes to orbit around a star. However if the physical Earth and Sun were created on the first day then those days would take just as long as they do for us now.

 

If God is all-powerful then there is nothing that is impossible for him. The whole day stuff and such is just a representation so that we could understand it, it is not a completely literal translation you know.

Anyway I am Catholic just for the record.

And about Atheist being a religion technically speaking for a religion to be globally recognized there needs to be in the range of about 1,000 to 1M depending on the place and such and such. So if you take religion as being a set of beliefs then Atheism is in fact a religion.

Paradoxly isn't it?

 

But the god is not the one doing the impossible. Even if it does exist and is all powerful, it's not doing what I said is impossible. I said it is impossible to measure a day without a celestial body and impossible to measure a year without it orbiting a star. It's like timing a race that has no competitors. A god might be able to do anything, but the god isn't involved in these.

 

why isn't it possible? We don't measure days in planet movement anymore, we do it in hours. Six days is ~24x6 hours
Besides taking things like this from Bible literally is pointless imo

 

just wondering, if god is omniscienent, than he could predict the future, and he would have been able to stop adam and eva from plucking the apple, he could stop sodom and gommora from becoming hellholes, and he could stop the world from going mad near the (i dont know the name in english) zondvloed

 

Actually days are still measured in rotations. The time it takes for the Earth to rotate relative to the Sun is approximately 24 hours, so an Earth day is 24 hours. That's why we need a leap year every four years. It's because the time it takes for the Earth to rotate doesn't exactly fit into the time it takes to orbit the Sun and there is always about a quarter of a day left over each year, so every four years there is an extra day because those four quarters are still left over.
The days on Venus are actually longer than its year because it is orbiting the Sun faster than it's rotating.
Also, I have no clue why someone would follow something so closely, but not take it literally.
@ijffdrie. According to that (which to me is entirely true), god would have to be out to get everyone, like a kid with a magnifying glass on an anthill.

 

yeah, but it would be possible for him to do all that a million years ago, and play starcraft for the rest of eternity

 

Yes, he could have.
As for why he didn't you will have to go and ask him personally

Itza, so following your logic, God's six days may have been much longer than our six days literally.
And what do you mean by following something so closely ?

 

No, according to my logic, the six days would have either not existed, if it didn't create the physical Earth until the end of the six days because if it didn't then a 'day' could not have been measured, or it would have been exactly equal to our six days, for if the physical Earth was the first thing created which I assume it was because otherwise there isn't any other place for the other creations to go.
All in all, the Atheist's creation takes a lot longer than the Christian's creation.

 

You just mentioned Venus' days. Why do you think God has to use Earth's cycle for measuring days.
And as I said it's all metaphorical and shouldn't be taken literally imo
At some point Jesus says you should forgive not seven times but seventy seven times, which means always (It's from Hebrew's numerology I think)

 

Why would the creation of all things on Earth be measured in Venus' or any other planet's days? That seems just about as logical as religion itself.
Also, if Jesus is all forgiving, why bother sticking to the commandments, etc.? You'll be forgiven anyway, no matter what you've done wrong.

 

Maybe he doesn't measure it with plantes at all? That's why I told you to stay away from trying to understand it literally, it was never ment to be taken that way (i think)

Do I know? I don't think you are forgiven everything in the end. They did say that all our actions will be measured etc. Maybe it's that we as humans are supposed to forgive, but those who did wrong will be judged by God

 

Days can only exist if there is a planet. You can't have a day without one. If the Earth is the only planet they're referring to, then they'll be speaking in Earth days. Therefore, the Christian creation took place over six days, and the Atheist took place over 4.5 billion years. The Atheist's theory of creation is longer than the Christian's theory of creation. I don't know why everyone wanted to argue that point in the first place.
Also, I reckon that the only reason people say not to take the Bible literally is because otherwise, they can't be proved wrong. If there are no facts about it, it can't be proved wrong, but if there are, then it can. So the only way to ensure that your cult/religion will never be proven wrong is to say that the only evidence of it should not be taken literally.
Also, if he told people to be all forgiving, then there wouldn't be any Christian Judges, Jurors, Policemen, Lawyers, etc, etc, because they'd be forced by their religion to forgive whoever is guilty.