Are Cerebrates/Overmind gone? Should they?

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Story and Races' started by Sueco, May 10, 2009.

Are Cerebrates/Overmind gone? Should they?

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Story and Races' started by Sueco, May 10, 2009.

  1. Sueco

    Sueco New Member

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    Are Cerebrates and Overmind really out of the game? Can Kerrigan's 2kg of grey matter really fullfill all the functions for the swarm that the massive overmind and cerebrates did?

    Isn't Kerrigan sort of hijacking the swarm for her own purposes and deviating it from its quest for biopsionic perfection? Personally I'm not interested in whatever personal vendetta that puny human woman has going on, I want to assimilate the universe!

    The overmind was way cooler than evil emo zerg schoolgirl Kerrigan. Ye shes a mean ***** and has given a face to the swarm, but the Overmind was a being the size of an asteroid that encompassed milennia of experience, cold-blooded rationalism and near god-like omniprescence, on an ancient quest for perfection. Philosofically, it was a much more interesting being to explore in lore. Kerrigan is, mean ***** or not, too human and emotional to be a worthy leader for the swarm.
     
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    That is something that we don"t yet know of until the game comes out.
     
  3. Aurora

    Aurora The Defiant

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    Although we do know that all Cerabrates and incarnations of the Overmind from the original are permanently dead. However, Kerrigan could still make new ones, if she wanted.
     
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    how does one make a new celebrate?
     
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    Get a lot of goo and mash them up together.
     
  6. Kimera757

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    Kerrigan won't make them anymore either, as she has no need for them - re lore panel, BlizzCon 2007.

    It seems nobody here has read Shadow Hunters. Kerrigan can control all the zerg by herself, and she's still following the Overmind's original purposes; she's just adding revenge to the list of motivations.
     
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    So her motive is getting revenge for...?
    Mengsk abandoning her??
     
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    Not only that, but she found out about the ghost program which the terrans were creating, forcing her in to working for the terrans (included threatening her with her father) and erasing her memory.

    In the future she'll probably be able to successfully create more sane infested terran, probably infested ghosts as well as they're more intelligent.
     
  9. Aurora

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    Although all that is just fan speculation, expcept for what Kimera said. Still, I find it strange that she only has need for Overlords. The Overmind was a huge blob of fused together Cerabrates, and he had immense mental and psionic abilities. A bit strange that Kerrigan can control thousands of Overlords and Behemoths by herself.
     
  10. I think we have to forgive that in order to get a character that we, as humans, can relate to and like.

    I'm not saying I didn't like the Overmind or anything. I'm just saying that it's easier to like a humanoid character with similar emotions and weaknesses.
     
  11. Lucratus

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    Very true tassadar evoked more feelings from me than when any other character was killed or suffered some life turning experience in the whole game ( s).
     
  12. Sueco

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    But thats my point... the whole cool thing about the swarm was that it was so utterly non-human in its motives, identity and even individuality. Thats exciting stuff to explore in any good sci-fi novel.

    Btw how does that novel explain kerrigans capability to control the swarm where you needed to have a whole command chain of giant brains? Is it something to do with her being psionic?
     
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    Agree with Aurora, does Kerrigan is more powerful than any life being in the universe even Zeratul and Overmind? controlling all the overlord by her self makes me think that she is the god of the universe. Even Arthas merge with the Lich King to be one powerful being in Warcraft Universe.
     
  14. I think they can juggle both. Kerrigan serves the purpose of giving someone for the other races to talk to as a representative. This is crucial to cut scenes and the overall flow of the story. Everything else can stay, Zergish and as inhuman as possible.
     
  15. Kimera757

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    Kerrigan had the cerebrates killed and controlled the whole swarm at the end of Brood War. The novel takes place four years later; it doesn't need to explain that.

    As Kerrigan told Zeratul in The Reckoning, people keep underestimating her. Raszagal did, which is how she ended up being Kerrigan's mental slave.
     
  16. Sueco

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    What i wonder is what kerrigan does to control Billions of Zerg, that used to require brains the size of houses. How does she do it?
     
  17. Just because the Overmind was huge doesn't mean that that's what it requires to control the Zerg. We don't know how much the Overlords help so we can never truly know.

    Either way, I say just forgive this small detail.
     
  18. Edruken

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    They just require a lot of psyonic potential, which is what the overmind and kerrigan had
     
  19. Kimera757

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    Quoting action from Shadow Hunters:

    On Kerrigan's control:

    In the darkness, there was order.

    Her haven was inviolable. She was queen of all she surveyed, and her vision was vast.

    What those who served her unquestioningly knew, was her knowledge. What they saw, was her sight. What they felt, were her feelings. Unity, complete and utter, shivering along her nerves, racing in her blood. A unity that began with the lowest and most base of her creations and ended with her.

    "All roads lead to Rome" was a saying she remembered from when she was weak and fragile, her mighty spirit encased in human flesh, when her heart could be softened by such things as loyalty, devotion, friendship, or love. It meant that all paths led to the center, to the most important thing in the world.

    She, Kerrigan, the Queen of Blades, was the most important thing in the world of every zerg who flew, crept, slithered, or ran. Each breath, each thought, each movement of the zerg, from the doglike beasts to the mighty overlords, lived but by her whim. Lived to service her whim.

    All roads led to Rome.

    All roads led to her.

    On the zerg mission:

    Kerrigan rose and paced. She was beginning to grow impatient. Before her arrival as their queen, she knew, the zerg had had a mission. To grow, to absorb, to become perfect, as their creators had wanted them to be. Their creators, whom they had turned on without so much as a breath of conscience. Sarah Kerrigan understood the idea of "conscience." There had been moments, even in this glorious new incarnation, where she had had twinges of it. She did not see such a thing as a weakness, but as an advantage. If one thought like one's enemies, one could defeat them.

    The zerg were still on that mission under her guidance. But she had brought something new into the mix: the pleasure of revenge and victory. And for too long now, she had been forced to rest and recover, lick wounds, and fall back on the original mission. Certainly, she had not been idle over the last four years. She had rested here on Char, had found new worlds for her zerg to explore and exploit. The zerg had thrived under her leadership, had grown and advanced and improved.

    Source: http://books.simonandschuster.com/S.../Starcraft/9780743471268/excerpt_with_id/8904
     
  20. Lucratus

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    I believe this is what controlled them also.