Beginners Luck Isn't Working Out

So, this is my first post and to be honest, im just horrible at this game right now. Im just looking fora bit of help to steer me in the right direction. I play as zerg, but i cant really find many build orders that i can use. And it seems no matter how many units im pumping out, im always behind and always have like 1000 minerals to spare, everyone tells me to just pratice,but its hard when your getting frusterated and dont know how to deal with your enemy,

Well, theres my little rant/vent. Advice woud be helpful, and if you want to flame go ahead, i dont really care what you think

 

You're in the beta right? Just play the practice league. I assume that's in the beta. If not, just wait for comps.

 

I'm sure there's a Zerg player that can help you out with a decent and specific build order. I'm mostly Terran, but I will be working on Zerg coming up.

 

Here's a basic starter

10/10 Overlord
12/18 Pool
16/Queen
18/18 Extractor
17/18 Overlord
18/18 Roach Warren or Expansion or Baneling

Hot key your first scouting overlord, your hatchery(ies), your queen, and your units. Obviously if you see a proxy going you will pump out lings instead of drones at around 15. Spawn Larva every 40 seconds, and pump those units out.
This build order really works out against all 3 races. Slight differences in ZvZ.

Hope this helps

 

Thanks a lot guys, pretty good help so far, i just get so frusterated when im getting raped o.o, so i cant focus on what im supposed to be doing.

 

it's okay to lose, or be losing, but you shouldn't let that put you down. Try new builds, build orders, micro your units. Do w/e you want in a game as long as it improves your game in the long run. This is BETA SC2 now RETAIL SC2, when the game comes out, there's going to be a lot more serious people out there.

In addition, the ladder rankings right now, don't matter jack. It only helps u face people closer to your level in my opinion. Just focus on your game, so when the game comes out, you have your mechanics(macro/micro) worked out better than most of the people who just started. LIke your friends say, work at it!XD

 

Another quick question, wall-ins seem impossible to break though, whenever an enemy turtles, i waste too many units trying to break the wall, but how else could i beat them?

 

When they turtle you expand, and keep building up your army. Send overseers in and drop some changlings and run it back out while your changlings scout what they are getting. Get the hard counter for what they get. DO NOT bother breaking their front door. It's usually an all in attack,which you don't want to do. Wait for them to come out or expand and get them then With your forces. Preferably when your opponent comes out to attack and over extends themselves. This is where Xelnaga towers come into play for information. Only until you have a force sizable in your opinion x2 or more better. Than you go attack their base head on.
In a nut shell, expand, tech up, army up, and punish them when they move too close to you.

 

Also, when you lose (notably against another Zerg), don't get frustrated. Just enjoy what skill and tactics they employed, and get some insight from their build order by watching the replay.
What better way to learn how to win than from emulating those that are beating you? But at the same time, try to think up your own build orders and tactics in your head.
Even if you choose not to employ most of them, you'll be building up an ingrained understanding of what strategies you should use against other units and tactics.

 

Great idea, Thanks a lot guys

 

~5 Banelings will blow down Supply Depot and Pylon walls. Aiming for the building in the middle vs a Terran will take down all their depots. Do this early enough and it's more-or-less guaranteed to scare the crap out of a Terran.

Any banelings left over after taking the wall will be great for the units behind it. Follow up with Zerglings within seconds. I usually delay a wall break by a bit so I can send in speedlings, then just ignore the remaining defense, heading to the workers.

 

Well, i just lost someone who turtled in there base and made battlecruisers the whole time... like even when i follow a build order and the other person does something totally stupid i lose. lol, im sure u guys are tired of me complaining though, i just guess im not cut out for starcraft ;o

.... give up too easily :S

 

don't, you have the freakin' beta oO

Practice! Go for your dreams! etcetc.

 

Build orders are for the first few minutes of the game. Scouting is for the rest of the game.

If someone turtles up in their base, you have a huge advantage. You can freely mine multiple mineral patches, you can regularly send scouts into their base to figure out what they're up to, etc.

When they had a Fusion Core, you should have known to start making lots of Corruptors to counter.

If they could afford a full fleet with a single base, it means you could probably have pushed or dropped and won.

 

Alright, thanks for the help and suggestions

 

Well, iv been trying the build orders uv told me, and iv been doing a bit better, but im always losing to terran they just turtle and i cant do anything at all. I try to beak it with lings and banelings but they have too many marines, and i end up spending too much on banelings and have no lings to back it up.

 

The best way to learn in my opinion is to watch replays and videos. I can't play the beta actually but i learn from youtube. I also want to play zergs. I think a zerg should win just with roaches and muta, but there are a lot of possibilities
What I think can be wrong, but zerglings are very quick, far more than marines. Don't send all your troops to the same place (however with banelings it can be very fun) but try to find another way to enter. Harras sometimes to know what he gets (zerglings can go from the front entry to the back entry very quickly marines will be late, and tanks won't have the time to move).

You can go with muta or nydus worms, or by destroying the rocks. That is just for the siege.
Never stop to make new units. The terran can create them by two, so you need a lot of hatcheries.

I hope I'm not wrong

 

I have the same "too many minerals stockpiled" problem. You can reduce this by using MBS. (You are using MBS, right? It might be a little detail you missed out on.)

If you're not, here's how you do it. Make your first hatchery selection group "0" (or whatever number you want to use). Every time you make a new hatchery, add it to the same selection group.

Anytime you see you've got built up minerals, press "0", then "S" to select all larvae, then madly push "z", "r" or whatever to make units.

If you're already figured this out (and you probably have), the only thing I can suggest is practice. I wouldn't suggest watching videos, as even those that are 'cast often assume you're good at StarCraft and don't explain the basics. (Also, the players aren't necessarily playing for fun. It's like trying to learn to play soccer from watching the World Cup, or learning the times tables in a calculus class.)

The Practice League only lets you play 5 games. A little disappointing.

 

Watching videos is not all bad. They can give you ideas to try out. And you can try them out in your matches over and over till you perfect them.

 

That is how I learn how to get better. I just watch replays and VODs. One channel to start on is http://www.livestream.com/striderdoom VERY informative.