Beyond the world.

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Inside Sin, Aug 8, 2008.

Beyond the world.

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Inside Sin, Aug 8, 2008.

  1. Inside Sin

    Inside Sin Active Member

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    Okay, now's the time to think...

    So, everyones heard of aliens and UFOs, well me and my dad ( he's a very smart guy, loads of theorys ), we had a conversation and we started talking about UFOs and how they could maraculously disappear ( speed off ) and how they twirl about.

    When you think about it, all planets have magnetic energy, if you implemented it right on a ship, it'd hover and the world has unlimited energy so they could go at super speeds, aswell as going in space. In space they'd travel via the planet's magnetic systems, and because there is no wind resistance or friction, they could get to one planet or another at amazing speeds...

    Now, if you see a UFO video, the thing always spins, well, I don't know if they're real or not. But when you create a magnetic connection so that the things are pushing away from each other, it will just hover, and spin like seen. As soon as they break the connection, they would go pelting far away from their current location ( like a build up and then release ). I'm not sure, but I think this is one thing I wish I could just upload my ideas and theorys onto a chip and show you all. It's so hard to explain.. But I really think there are people out there and they created us, so they want to keep coming back to check whether the earth is dealing fine, or if there is something that's going to get us all killed..

    We could of invented a great machine to contact them, but they could of just destroyed it and wiped the mind of the person who created it, it's an infinite end.

    I'd like to hear all your thoughts!
     
  2. kuvasz

    kuvasz Corrections Officer

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    I believe in us having evolved, not created in a flash, but this is beside the point I want to make. If these aliens had such advanced technology, they wouldn't need to travel here in ships to check on us - most probably they'd have the technology and senses to create a high performance telescope. Observing something from as far as possible and thus not interfering with the subjects (not to mention saving energy that would be needed to travel here) is a much better solution - and since such technology requires high intelligence, they'd probably conclude the same thing.
     
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    First off, that is one crazy conspiracy theory. Secondly, though I'm not positive that I understood everything you were trying to explain, a lot of what you've said is based off false assumptions. Firstly, I'm pretty sure that it's only really the Earth that has magnetic poles but putting that aside, in order to suspend an object with magnets, it has to be directly over the opposite magnetic pole. In other words, you'd either need the North pole of the magnetic spacecraft hovering over the South pole of the planet or vice versa. Also, planets do not have an infinite amount of energy, not to mention that although there's no wind resistance in space, you have to be able to accelerate to those speeds to begin with, and that even when travelling at the speed of light, it still takes five years just to get to the next closest star to us.

    Also, just out of curiosity, what makes you believe there are people out there who created us? Is it based upon all these UFO sightings? Or do you just believe it explains the origin of life?

    EDIT: Lastly, I agree with kuvasz.
     
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    They couldn't use a telescope, light only travels so fast, if they look at us from their home planet, they would be seeing the American civil war right now (1850's).

    I too believe in evolution, but it is possible that we were helped along by other more intelligent species, not unlike the protoss and the zerg.
     
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    The relative time difference delay when using a telescope or similar would be much less than if they actually travelled here. Also, I see no reason to believe that we were 'helped' by a more intelligent specie. Everything life needed to exist was present. The forming of inorganic compounds into organic compounds, organic compounds into microspheres, microspheres into prokaryotes, prokaryotes into euckaryotes and eukaryotes into multicellular organisms has practically been proven and the only reason it's not a law is basically because no-one was there to document it. There's nothing to suggest there was any outside input and it doesn't solve any problems or questions anyway.
     
  6. kuvasz

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    Nobody said they'd use it at their planet... To observe something as I've described earlier, it'd be enough to fly really close (in cross-galaxy measures) to the planet, where there would be next to no lag and where they'd still be hidden from what they observe.
     
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    Well, since I am of the Christian faith :3, I believe that "people" did not create us. If "people", then what people? Nobody knows how the earth started. Once we figure that out - likely we never will, we can move on from there. For now, i'll stick to what i've been told - God created the universe, and created us - both Male, and Female.
     
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    Itza, I didn't say that it was fact that we were helped along, I said it is a possibility.

    Kuvasz, they would have to be very close for there to not be much, no further away then the moon. In which case, they run the risk of being seen anyway, so why not come down and see us up close?
     
  9. kuvasz

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    Because different methods of flying are required for space and atmosphere, and it'd be easier to have just one (space, obviously). Also, their high-tech telescopes would probably see us 'up close', perhaps even better than we see each other ;) Remember that we're talking about highly advanced "people", where technology knows no boundaries (as far as we can comprehend right now), so staying in space to avoid "exciting" the subjects is the best way to go in order to keep the observation as accurate as possible.
     
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    I mean up close as in studying more then just the light the ppl are reflecting. If they are on Earth, then they can hear us, you can't do that in space, you may be able to hear our voices from the radio signals we send, but that is all.

    And great tech to do what, amplify light more, it's not hard, I think we got that down. I wouldn't expect them to be able to do it much better then us, maybe a little.
     
  11. kuvasz

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    We'd be at least 500,000 years behind them :wacko: Plus I think you're over-rating our current technology.
    You're right about the sounds, but it'd still be better for them to just plant undetectable bugs rather than have their whole ships enter the atmosphere and risk being discovered.
     
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    To detect sounds and sight maybe, then they wouldn't need to be in line of sight from us, and risk being spotted by a scientific telescope.

    Being so techinologiclly advanced, why not just make andriods while they are at it.
     
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    I think we're one of many experiments of theirs from various solar systems, they must be guiding us as a sort of new race to follow on their own, but if they interferred, because their race is so extremely teched, we might not be able to handle all the information and go crazy. If they used a telescope to look on us, ( granted they could look faster then light ) and they saw Hitler ressurecting to kill all men and women, don't you think if we we're part of their evolution to be, they would try and stop it? By observing, I think they do more than you think, observe see what fuss is about, if their is any great fuss, they could stop it with an instant. I don't know anything more than anyone else. But neither do they.
     
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    there is a great chance that there are aliens cause asteroids and vlocanoes helped form earth snd there are millions of asteroids and volcanoes out there in the universe there for there should be some worlds like earth and they could be humans[like us]or have small organsims but very inttellingent but we are not sure...
    my hope is that they do exist and they are allies to us....
     
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    Dude, better grammar, seriously.

    But makes sense.

    Sin, I don't think they would stop a human, cause it is still human and part of our evolution. Maybe if another alien species tried something they would interfere.
     
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    sorry about that[im typing fast so thats why its has some mistake]
    well like someone created the human race...they didnt place them on one planet...they could of placed them in other planets...
    so think about it....
     
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    I just agreed with you, you don't need to clarify anymore.
     
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    I am sorry but I just would like to comment this point:

    Not all planets have "magnetic energy", or magnetosphere if you were thinking about that.

    The magnetic field of a planet depends on its materials and its activitiy, and if a planet, or moon or asteroid or whatever, is just a dead piece of rock, big or not, it has no magnetic field. A gravitational field yes if you were refering to that.

    I am not sure to have understood your post, but your point remains all the same though as most planets have a magnetosphere. But just keep in mind it is sometimes so weak that it may not really be a bit of help...
     
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    Don't be sorry, we like it when ppl disagree with vasz.

    I think a gravity engine would make more sense anyway. There is gravity everywhere, all mass has it.

    Besides, what do all high tech aliens use to move their ships? Gravity drives. Or most of them anyway.
     
  20. kuvasz

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    We... we do?

    Anyway, he quoted Inside, not me.