Digimon masterpiece theater,

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Digimon masterpiece theater,

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    starring your host, Ramses IJff, who has decided not to spam the chat.


    In today's episode, we take a look at
    Episode 31: Storm of Love - Sylphimon
    Or: How I learned to stop swimming and love the clap

    In today's episode, three children are about to enter another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land of imagination. Next stop, the dark ocean!

    As our protagonists walk through a forest, the small cat gatomon remembers that, in the first episode, she lost her tail-ring around here. Naturally, with the tail-ring being an artifact of great power, our heroes never looked for it. I mean, it's not like the first part of the season focused on our heroes being unable to naturally evolve and they really could have used a fully powered champion-level digi... Oh wait, yes it did. You're all idiots.

    One of our protagonists, former digi-hitler Ken Ichijoji, cries out in sudden horror. He has seen the dark ocean. Yes, the dark ocean, that mystical dimension of negative emotions. To his aid come the lovable but useless Kari and the quirky Yolei. When they help him to his feet, they naturally walk right into the dark ocean, because it is not like one of them has lifelong experience recognising the dark ocean and they could just walk the direction from which they came... Oh wait, yes they can. You're all idiots.

    The other children quickly realize that the three are missing and go look for them. But little do they know that the children are in the dark ocean and therefore... INVISIBLE! Wait, weren't Matt and Sora still findable when they were inside the dark ocean in season one? And for that matter, wasn't the dark ocean an entirely different dimension, rather than some sub-dimension of the digital world in earlier episodes? However, the leader of our protagonists, the noble and charismatic Davis is still able to hear the three. However, he dismisses it as simply being the voices in his head and walks on. Also, Yolei apparently isn't inside the dark ocean (or at least not as far as the others), so why is she invisible AND still able to see the other two? Anyway, the three decide to walk onwards. Then Yolei decides that she is now a paranoid lunatic, accuses the other two of conspiring against her and runs off, cursing herself for unknown reasons. When the children stumble upon a cliff, they see something glimmer at the bottom of it. They try go get their digimon to evolve, but it doesn't work. Naturally, the next best thing is climbing down the cliff. I mean, it is not like the first arc of the season revolved around the children not being able to normally evolve and them acquiring a new form of evolution that still works inside the dark ocean, which used the same mechanism to prevent evolution... Oh wait, yes it did. You're all idiots. And Crazy.

    Anyway, Kari and Yolei fall down the cliff, discover the ring is debree. Ken has a pretty bad headache and has been screaming in pain for a few minutes now. Yolei decides she is jealous of Ken and goes crazy as well. Kari decides the best therapy is slapping Yolei in the face. Yolei decides she likes it and falls in love with Kari. After a few minutes of assorted stupidity and bad writing, they find themselves on a beach. Arukenimon, the current villain, sees them (wait, weren't the invisible?) and decides to send a monster after them. And then one of Lovecraft's elder gods decides he wants to rape Kari and starts pulling her into the ocean. However, Yolei remembers her therapy, and slaps Kari in the face. They then consummate their love with some DNA digivolving, the local sex metaphor, and create a hermaphrodite chicken-bunny to battle in their name.

    And then everyone was happy, and no elder god ever tried to rape Kari again. For some reason.


    Yolei's current mood: lesbian paranoid lunatic

    Episode score: 2/10. Ungodly horrible. The dialog was awful, the pacing was all over the place, there were plotholes you could drive a locomon through and it completely ignores all previously established facts about the dark ocean. Which still makes it the second best yolei-focused episode I have thusfar encountered.
     
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    Made me laugh.
     
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    When I was a kid, a friend and I often talked about Digimon. When 02 first started, he argued that Cody getting the crest of knowledge and Yolei getting the crest of sincerity made no sense, since Yolei pretty much assumed the position of team technician. I argued that while Yolei was smart with computers, Cody showed the overall intelligence. Both of us stopped watching 02 around episode 30 since we found it getting too stupid (and considering I watched hamtaro for several more years, that's saying something).

    Now it's eight years later. I have just seen episode 34. In it, Cody wonders for 20 minutes why TK would want to kill something that is trying to destroy the world. I am ready to concede the point.
     
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    Hamtarooooooooooooooo
     
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    Just finished the demon arc. What the hell was the point of that? Also, where did demon come from? If he was able to access the real world at any time, why did he wait so long? What did he need the dark spores for? If he can freely open gates to the digital world from earth, why wouldn't he be able to open gates from the dark ocean, which is located somewhere between the digital world and earth? Where was he when the entire digital world was reformed back in adventure? Where was he when milleniummon was breaking the timeline? Why is his skullsatomon so hilariously overpowered despite being only at the ultimate level (seriously, that guy defeated a mega, eight ultimates and two champions within a few seconds)?
     
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    And then the evil monster was defeated because the children learned they should never ever be sad. Because sadness will destroy the world. And no one can be special either. Because that would make people bad and destroy the world. Also, australians are ignorant, don't wear pants and have names like 'Dingo'.

    You learn so much stuff from digimon.



    I just finished the finale. It was bad. It was seriously, horrifyingly, god-awfully bad. I mean, wow. I remember it being bad. But this bad? If I had to fit this one a 1 to 10 scale, all other episodes would get at least a 9 (yes, even the one from the first post)

    Does anyone have anything good to reccommend to help me get over this horrid piece of writing?
     
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    I tried reading watchmen, part three of the saga of the seven suns and a dry explanation on economic development. I'm still pissed at that finale.
     
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    Artemis Fowl, The Used's newest album Vulnerable, the poor plot transitions in Diablo 3, the many flavors of Sprite that you never knew existed, board games, flash games, collecting bottle caps, collecting red vines tubs, collecting broken electronics in your dresser.
     
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    Ooh, regarding diablo 3, while I'm still writing my starcraft review. Is the dialogue as clichéd as in starcraft II?
     
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    A lot of the quest dialogue feels clichéd, but outside of quests it feels kinda witty.
     
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    I doubt the plot transition are worse than F3AR, where you end one act in demon-infested water and start the next act at an airport. And then, from the airport, you are suddenly inside your own memory. I still don't know what the hell happened in the second half of the game, and I played through it twice.

    Currently watching Xros Wars. It's actually pretty damn good. Though it has very, very weird episode structures, with the theme song being in the middle of an episode rather than the beginning. Though it's also the first season of digimon that I can actually say has good animation.
     
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    So, apparently Akari secretly watches Taiki (the central character) as he sleeps. And he knows this and likes this. Originally, I was going to make a reverse twilight joke, but I can't actually say it's a bad idea here. Seriously, Taiki probably wouldn't survive for more than two days without supervision. His very first scene features him collapsing because he overexerted himself to master basketball in two days. He is like this weird unholy mixture between mary sue and too dumb to live that makes him a very enjoyable protagonist.
     
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    I watched the last episode of digimon Xros Wars. Dear god was that an epic ending.

    Overall, Xros wars is probably one of the better seasons of the show. It has a very strong plot, is very entertaining and fits in tone with the other seasons while still providing something new. However, the characterization was pretty weak and some of the plot elements could have had a bit more build-up. Also, it made me cry. Damn you baalmon/beelzebumon! Anyway, to me, it is the third best season, after the original adventure and tamers, but far ahead of savers, frontier and especially 02.

    I also watched the first episode of 'the young boy hunters who leapt through time' (the sequel to Xros wars). It wasn't really that bad, but I can tell this is going to be a very rough transition.
     
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    Also, Xros Wars was incredibly fan-servicey. I doubt this show will ever be licensed in the west due to Mervamon and Lilithmon. Within the spoilers is a jiggly gif. Not safe for work.

    [​IMG] And yes, the context for this is exactly what you think it is.
     
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    Sooo, I'm currently writing up a detailed review of 02. In judging it, I decided it was probably best to also consider what other groups of people, like casual viewers and moral guardians would have thought of it, rather than just thinking of it from the perspective of a digimon fan. Because of this, I also took a look at the morals that the show teaches. Here are the morals to all yolei episodes:

    * don't get distracted by picnics and lesbian fantasies when you or your loved ones are in mortal danger.
    * Prejudiced people should never try to change themselves.
    * Don't go insane.
    * Introspection is the best way to stop terrorists
    * Hitting your friends is the ultimate expression of your love
    * Wishing for all your siblings to die so you can eat dessert in peace is bad.

    So yeah, they're either incredibly stupid or blatheringly obvious.

    Here's a few more from other episodes:

    * Shooting your friends when captured rather than finding a way to free them is the ultimate expression of friendship AND/OR pointlessly sacrificing yourself rather than finding a way to free your friends is the ultimate expression of friendship AND/OR calling yourself pathetic rather than saving your friends is the ultimate expression of friendship (That episode was really, really confusing)
    * Telling a little white lie is okay if you're doing it to save a dozen lives and prevent the enslavement of an entire planet
    * The government shouldn't have powerful weaponry, it should be in the hands of pre-pubescent children
    * It's perfectly okay to fake multiple attacks on your life just to be able to brag to a girl. Nothing bad will come from it.
    * Punching your friends when you disagree with them is the ultimate expression of friendship
    * Punching your friends when you disagree with them is the ultimate expression of friendship (yeah, that one was used twice)
     
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    So, apparently there are digimon audio dramas. I listened to one.


    Why did they have to insert 9/11 into digimon?
     
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    The comma in the thread title still upsets me.
     
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    The title is not a finished sentence, the first sentence of the post is part of it.


    Anyway, I love digimon tamers and all (though seriously, do not let any children watch the final arc without supervision), but the monster growls in the japanese version sound ridiculous. The massive mechanical dinosaur powered by the apocalypse sounds like a headless chicken. And the worst thing is that they won't. stop. GROWLING!