Executor, Commander, Cerebrate.

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Story and Races' started by Jshep89, Nov 20, 2009.

Executor, Commander, Cerebrate.

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Story and Races' started by Jshep89, Nov 20, 2009.

  1. Jshep89

    Jshep89 New Member

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    Okay, these were major characters in the storyline and they aren't explaining what happend to them. I mean especially the executor because I mean cmon.... He rescued tassadar and zeratul, he's the one who's strategy killed the overmind, and hes the one who was able to lead his people to the warp gate to shakuras. Now we're just supposed to accept that he no longer exists? I mean that just doesn't work. That makes just one giant gap in the storyline.
     
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    Jshep89 is on to something...
     
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    We played those characters. And now in SC2 we will play the heroes we know like Zeratul and Kerrigan.
    Yeah, what happened to us ?
     
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    The commander could have died of any thing. The cerebrate probably would have been destroyed by kerrigan to insure that an overmind never comes back. However, the Executor is the one that I don't agree with blizzards choice to completely ignore his existance like it never happend. The character was too involved in the protoss storyline, and I don't think simply cutting him out is a good idea. The Executor was much more involved then any of the other characters you played.

    On a side note I think that mathew character on the hyperion. The one in a military uniform, is probably the commander you played in the first terran compaign from the original Starcraft.
     
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    Its a known fact that the 'executor' is Artanis.

    The Cerebrate was the only one who remained loyal to Kerrigan after the Overmind was killed. Although that quickly changed.
    Remember, even though Kerrigan is the Queen of Blades and controls the swarm doesn't mean cerebrates disappeared. Many were killed, not sure if the PC cerebrate remains. If I had to bet though, I'd say he did.

    And the ''Commander''.. well, who knows? probably some Confederate currently commanding Mengsk's forces.
    I really don't recall, but I don't think you're addressed as ''magistrate'' or anything after SC vanilla. Probably assuming that you remained in Korhal I guess.
     
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    Why wouldn't the magistrate still be with Raynor? He was with Raynor when they ditched the Confederacy, he was with Raynor when they ditched the dominion, so he should still be with him fighting the Dominion in SC2.

    Now the UED commander. I would suspect he died along with the UED fleet. Although I suppose Blizzard could say he was stranded on Braxis or something during the retreat (as I doubt he'd still be on that space platform).
     
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    I always hoped the commander took one long look at the state of the galaxy said "**** it" and went onto a backwater planet for a nice long vacation. I would to, after going through all the **** he did.
     
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    How in the world is Artanis the executor? He talks directly to you in the campaign. That makes absolutely no sense at all.
     
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    Artanis was the Executor before Brood War.
     
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    I was playing both SC and BW campaign recently and I realized the same thing. All those 3 charaters did EVERYTHING to shape what as happened in broodwar.

    Not branded hero, not mentionned anywhere in the lore. As far as we know the only cerebrate alive is the player cerebrate.

    They could give a name to the Executor/Cerebrate/Magistrate and put them in SC2, but imagine how Raynor or Kerrigan would feel. Who's the biggest hero now. The one that made the decision or the nameless guy who DID and accomplished those things.

    Everything that happened in SC with Raynor, Raynor has to thank the Magistrate for pulling all those things off. In his Bio, his best friend is Tychus for doing heists together. Yeah Raynor, I don't blame you, you just forgot how we overtrown the confedaracy together, how we saved those people on backwather post, how we killed the overmind.

    PS. I'm sorry for being almost directly responsible for the "Kerrigan thingy" there. You know, no hard feelings buddy. ^^'
     
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    Aurora The Defiant

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    *sigh*

    It's not that hard.

    The executor hasn't survived. Everybody but Zeratul and a few Protoss who were with him got killed in the few last Zerg campaign battles. So the Executor is dead. Simple.

    According to the books, there are no Cerebrates left. Kerrigan got rid of them all.

    The magistrate is most likely also dead. In the last cinematic it's pretty clear that Raynor and Mengsk got out, but that all other humans close to the infested space platform got killed.

    Lastly: why is this posted in the strategy board? We have a separate story board for this stuff. :/
     
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    Yeah sorry I just noticed I posted it in the wrong forum. My bad. Would it be possible for a moderator to move this to the story section?
     
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    Ok, so Artanis was the Executor from SC? Then here's my latest theory, it'll blow your minds... The Magistrate from the normal SC was in BW infact Duran! It all fits, color-wise atleast, he had blue marines when you discovered his base on Braxis. Maybe they can weave in that all the events in SC for the Terran campaign served some purpose, most likly to keep Raynor alive and give Kerrigan to the Zerg, and final Terran-mission to keep "Duran" alive, for whatever forces Duran serves.

    Again I post my other theory that Duran, inbetween SC and BW that Duran did infact recruit Kerrigan (opposed to working under her) to some hidden organization, hence why he was allowed to work with the Zerg. It would explain why he was working with the Zerg and Kerrigan let him.

    Also it makes me sad that "we", the Zerg Cerebrate died inbetween SC and BW and again after BW it seems :(
     
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    Aurora The Defiant

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    Uhm, no. You don't play any visible characters. Your own character has no name or identity.

    And even if this was the case, then you wouldn't be playing as Duran or Artanis. Other characters speak to them, they leave, and then you (the nameless players character) are spoken to. So you see, it's impossible what you are saying.

    Lastly, Kerrigan must have thought that Duran became infested. She doesn't even trust her own Cerebrates, let alone some strange Terran guy who appeared out of nowhere.
     
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    I said that my theory was that the Magistrate from the normal SC, not BW, was Duran all along as someone else said that Artanis in BW was the Executor from the normal SC. I didn't say "you" played as Duran in BW, in BW you were a captain with the UED.

    SC:

    Terran - Magistrate (My theory = Duran)
    Zerg - Purple Cerebrate
    Protoss - Executor (someone said Artanis)

    BW:

    Protoss - New executor (Not Artanis)
    Terran - UED Captain (Not Duran)
    Zerg - New Purple Cerebrate

    Hmm, I don't really buy into that Kerrigan didn't know who the heck that ghost heping her out was, even less that she misstook him for someone infested and way impossible that she would've thought she infested him (unless she did, I used to imagine he let Kerrigan infest him but being some ancient evil it didn't affect him, but that's not even half as interesting) :)
     
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    How could Artanis have been the Executor in SC1 ? Artanis is a Dark Templar. We were the Executor at the very first mission and we met Aldaris for the first time. How could Aldaris have spoken to a Dark Templar, as you must remember that Aldaris was a preator of the Conclave ? And remember the Conclave was the enemy of the Dark Templars.
    So Artanis = the Executor, talking with Aldaris and getting instructions from him. It is nonsense.
     
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    Artanis was just a templar and he piloted a Protoss Scout in BW. I didn't know prior to reading it here that he was also "we" in the Protoss campaign in the original SC, but it's clear from reading just the begining of the wiki entry here:

    http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/Artanis

    It says he became Executor after the former, Tassadar, left, it also says he began his service by re-enforcing the base at Antioch. Unless I'm mistaken "we" did that. You've been SC-served, if this was the actual story-forum I wouldn't have let this pass :p
     
  18. Kimera757

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    No he isn't. The missing "hair" is an art error. You can even see it get corrected in Frontline.

    See above.

    You are wrong.
     
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    Kimera757 is right, as soon as I saw Artanis is a dark templar I was like... wth

    Artanis, a scout pilot, was a young protoss and member of the Templar Caste. He was appointed executor to replace Tassadar. cs wiki

    I doubt that any dark templar would have been made executor by the conclave.
     
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    But it's not really that big of a mistake to assume he's a DT. Only a DT doesn't have those "hair" things. If you don't know about the fact that that's an art flaw, then I find this mistake to be quite understandable.

    Further, Artanis appears in Brood War and was then only recently made an Executor. Since the Conclave started working together with the DT, I don't see how it's impossible for a DT to became an Executor after the events that took place before Brood War.

    And who says that a DT can't pilot a Scout? As far as I know, the only "vehicles" requiring the Khala to pilot them, are Carriers. You see that in the last cinematic, there's no control panel. But the other units show control panels / cockpits and such in their portraits. The only exception is the Dragoon, which obviously requires the Khala to operate it, or even get into.

    But again: I don't find it stupid at all to mistake Artanis for a DT.
     

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