ExtraTerrestrial Life

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Darktemplar_L, Apr 28, 2008.

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Does ExtraTerrestrial Life Exist?

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  3. What does ExtraTerrestrial mean?

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ExtraTerrestrial Life

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Darktemplar_L, Apr 28, 2008.

  1. Darktemplar_L

    Darktemplar_L New Member

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    Seeing as how my topic on the paranormal was such a success, I decided to make a topic about aliens. I'm talking about life beyond the Solar system. Do you people think that life exists in other places besides the Earth? If so, why.
     
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    Why not? It's entirely possible. Alien life would include anything from tiny microbes to sentient beings. It's almost inevitable that a planet other than Earth is suitable for life.
     
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    Okay, here's my opinion. I say that, yes, there is Extraterrestrial life. I'm just sad at the fact that people are as ignorant as to just say aliens don't exist without thinking of how many planets there are in the universe that are suitable for some kind of life. Be it a single-celled organism or a highly intelligent piece of slime that reproduces by stretching itself. That's why I say yes.
     
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    Given the wide range of habitats where life can exist here, I'm sure somewhere out there on some planet there's some kind of funky sulfur breathing microbe chillng in a 100C pot of lead nitrate. We may know only of life that exists in Earth like environments, but who says it's limited to just that?

    However, if it is intelligent, that is a slim(er) chance. But I still want to think that it is out there. They had some article about how it is unlikely...I don't want to believe it...

    *will find it later*
     
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    I have the power to speak with the dead, and Edmond Duke assured me they´re real, and nasty!
     
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    if intelligent life,then if we discovered them,then they could teach us how to create tech. similar to theirs,
    im assured that Earth is not Unique,
    like the only one that can support life,1 with fresh water,1 with nutrients,
    well i say they do exist,but according to ienstines theory of relativity divided with the mass of the universe=to the chances of other intelligent life by 2 billilon against 2 bil 468.
    okay that was a joke about ienstines theory of relativity etc. etc.
    but there's a great chance threre is.
     
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    Yes, I think its exist, but I am sceptical wether we cam commuciate with them. I ma not sure if we can recognize them <_>
     
  8. Darktemplar_L

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    I seriously don't like scientists who try to search for extraterrestrial life because they are always searching for water. Water means life. Maybe for us, what if other forms of life need to survive in like -100 degree temperatures and absorb sodium through their skin. Scientists are always looking for water... It's just funny how they are that smart but think so narrowly. They don't have to have water, maybe somehow by eating dirt their bodies can change it into a liquid.

    We will eventually find extraterrestrial life. We might be able to communicate with them somehow if you just act out what you want to say. Like you need to go to the bathroom, show them your dongle and pretend your peeing.
     
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    "goifujoi4iweu 988414654 54&^&*^*(Yngv bvlkj_)(%$K<M<M)


    That was an extra terestial keyboard stating they do exist!!
    whats wrong with believing or not, what matters is our capacity to accept reality when we finally discover the truth..
     
  10. ItzaHexGor

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    With all due respect, if the scientists are looking for water, then that's what they should be looking for. I think their years upon years of research and thousands upon thousands of dollars worth of funding would have a bit more to show than your suggestion that things might be able to absorb sodium, which is actually highly reactive so is not at all likely to be required in large amount, or eating dirt and changing it into a liquid, which would require great amount of energy to melt and would only supply them with the minerals that are in the dirt to begin with. Perhaps, before you start saying all these scientists are narrow-minded you should know that they don't just look through telescopes for water. They'd have done countless experiments or research to see whether life, of any kind, can survive in certain conditions, etc, and wouldn't just think 'well we need water so that means that aliens would have to as well'.

    I believe that it is entirely possible that there is life on other planets, but it is extremely unlikely that they are sentient or have evolved to our level of complexity. Life on Earth occurred relatively quickly under the ideal conditions. The Earth is supposed to have formed relatively quickly and ideal conditions to form the organic compounds occurred extremely quickly, along with the actual forming of said organic compounds, sparking the origin of life, so the chances that there is some further advanced alien specie is extremely small.

    If sentient alien species to exist, I pray that we never come across them. This is not because I fear that they'll invade us, etc, etc, like you always see in the movies, but because if mankind can hardly deal with meeting another race of human, what on Earth's going to happen with another lifeform? Scientists are obviously going to want to study them, sceptics are obviously going to want to be hostile towards them, some could possibly want to hunt them, not to mention all the things that people could and would to for things like money or fame. They'd have people capturing them, have samples taken from them, be attacked, be hunted, be kidnapped, etc, etc. Imagine if it was the other way around, and in all seriousness it actually could be.

    This is mainly directed at karlo and Darktemplar_L, but communication would be practically impossible. See how far you'd get when speaking to someone who does not speak or understand your language. Not only that but these aliens don't necessarily share the same features or anatomical structure to you, nor are you familiar with any of their tools or instruments. If you flash them and mime that you're going to the bathroom, they're not going to know what you're going on about. Who's to say that their excretory system even works in a remotely similar way or that they'll be able to show us how to create their technology? Humans have opposable thumbs to help them build and create our tools, so the chances that they work in the exact same way is excruciatingly small.
     
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    Am I not proof?

    But seriously, I answered yes. I think it's entirely implausible and egotistical to believe that Earth is the only planet in an infinite (AFAWK) universe that has life, intelligent or not.

    PS: @ Itza's last comment. Technically, we could communicate through math, that's a law. Idk how, flashes of light or clicks probably.
     
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    How will they know the code we're using and what it means?
     
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    Yes, there must be.

    There are over 100 billion galaxies, even if the chance of life arising in a galaxy is one percent (or less) the universe is just so big that there must be something else out there (even if there isn't any life out there now, the probability goes up if you include the past and future).

    The real question is, "is there any other life in our own galaxy?" because it's the only life we can reasonably expect to meet any time "soon".
     
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    lol at the results.

    Yes, same reasons as everyone else.


    Itza, it's not that hard at all to communicate with someone who speaks a different language (I and many other people who have been aboard know first hand). It just takes longer and messages are more simplistic at first.
    When the first French guy met the first English guy there was a steep learning curve.

    It's not like talking to a tree either. Another intelligent animal wouldn't be that hard to understand after a great deal of repetition. You don't even need words. You know when your dog is happy or scarred. I bet your dog knows when your happy or pissed off.

    I'm not saying it would be easy but given time and support on both sides, why not?

    Other than the possibility that they have completely different senses than us. Then it is like talking to a tree.
    Couldn't even guess those odds one way or another.
     
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    To get find out any proper information, and not just things like 'I'm tired' or 'I'm hungry' it would be hard enough to mime out the question and answer to a fellow human, who both understand each other and both understand the exact same concepts in the exact same way, yet alone miming it to someone who does not necessarily function in the same way, does not understand you, nor you it, or any of the same concepts as you. It would be like trying to communicate with a monkey. Both you and it are intelligent, both you and it can be co-operative and repetitive, and in this case, you both understand each other much more than an alien and you would understand each other. It's not as simple as telling if it's happy, scared or pissed off, because you don't know why and you can't get any other information from it. And this is if both sides understand that the other is amicable and both are patient enough to put in the time and effort.

    Even basic gestures do not transfer across untouched cultures. If you meet someone who has never had any human contact and give them the thumbs up, what are they going to think? If anything they'd probably think that you're threatening them. Suddenly raising what is practically a clenched fist. Even smiling could be taken the wrong way, and viewed aggressively, suddenly baring your teeth like that. It would be extremely intimidating having something you've just met baring teeth and raising fists. Those are just two example of positive gestures that could easily be taken the wrong way.
     
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    I was watching a program on discovery channel, its like a hypothetical series, where they send two advanced robots with artificial AI to this planet.
    At first when I saw the creatures they speculated upon I was like wtf?!?!?
    For example they had a Petrodactyl like creature which looked like a sharp interceptor mixed with a kite. It used jet propulsion and it was huge.
    On this planet, for a biomechanical being to do so it would not be possible as our air is too thin and gravity is too strong for that.
    But on their planet the air was much 200% more dense and had a slightly lower gravity, meaning they wouldn't exactly have to flap or push the air to gain flight.
    You should definitly watch this when it shows again:
    http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/alienplanet/

    And heres some top scienctists 'definition' of life:
    http://www.discoverychannel.co.uk/alienplanet/scientist_video/whatislife_flash/index.shtml
     
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  17. ijffdrie

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    i've seen it over a year ago, and i think the video didnt show a realistic sigt on possible ET's
     
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    Why not? I think a few of their concepts are highly plausable.

    And on alien intelligence, whats to say we are at the highest level of intelligence. Generally humans are not intelligent anymore, we are smart but not intelligent. Look how we treat the things keeping alive.
    On a universal level we may not even be classed as intelligent as the earth is not even been around for a long time speaking on an astrological level.
     
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    rememer that little flock of creatures that took the enormous creature out? if i remmeber correctly(i could always be wrong) those lil things would have taken over the planet by now.
    and there is no logical way for the jet to have evolved
     
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    There are extraterrestrial life which exists, surely, but no intelligence life