Virginia's attorney general ken cuccinelli sued the united states saying that the health care bill is unconstitutional on the basis that the government should not be allowed to force the people to buy something. This might be the end to the healthcare bill. thoughts?
Let's water down the bill from a reasonable alternative to public healthcare to pretty much the same thing as before and then sue the remnants of it so we can claim victory over the evil socialists who want to destroy America and feed our dumb voter base with pretencious victory points. That being said: Would anyone care to show me the part of the bill that requires you to buy the insurance and then show me the corresponding part of the constitution that is supposed to forbid that? I have heard of this issue several times already but nobody bothers with facts anymore. Cheers.
Taxs are just a way the state forces you to buy public goods in advance. This is just a publicity stunt, i'm sure its a meaningless arguement and if not the US really is doomed if any broad bill can be shot down from a constitutional point of view.
The part where it talks about freedom. The constitution, right down to the preamble, insures the citizen's right to the greatest degree of freedom possible while still maintaining order and decency in society. Only problem is, insurance only works if everyone has it. If everyone doesn't the people who don't have it are being compensated unfairly by the people who do. I think it would be a terrible law with a great outcome if we let it pass. Although everything else in the bill is beaureacratic garbage. It's a shame that the bill's support has waned all the way to around 35 percent among most voters yet we still got it passed. Ridiculous. True, but in all fairness, taxes are designed for things people aren't capable of providing for themselves. Things such as law enforcement, a military, roads and such cannot be effectively privatized without creating unnecessary confusion, and even then, they are privatized whenever possible and profitable. And as far as buying them in advance, it's not really in advance. It's every year when you pay your taxes. If people didn't want to have certain things from the govt and could prove they can effectively privatize them and worry about them as individuals, wouldn't you say they have the right to?
Don't forget that certain people also claim certain taxes(mostly income tax) to be unconstitutional and refuse to pay them.
As far as I am concerned if you don't want to live in a society please move out of the country and live on a boat in the international waters. "If people didn't want to have certain things from the govt and could prove they can effectively privatize them and worry about them as individuals, wouldn't you say they have the right to?" Nobody proved that healthcare can be sucessfuly privatized. They did the very opposite if anything.
but then you're trying to prove that 1. people want everything taxes pay for 2. people who don't purchase medical insurance do so because they don't WANT insurance, not that they can't afford it. you're forced to pay, through taxes, a lot of things you don't want. for a huge portion of the US it's a ridiculously expensive military. for others it's public transportation (hey, i have my own car, why are my taxes paying for buses?) etc. i have no kids, why are my taxes paying for public schools? in short, all these things benefit society in general, so whether you make use of it or not, you should be paying it through taxes. now on to health care- do you honestly think it's the kind of thing people feel they can live their lives without? do people who don't pay medical insurance do it because they'd rather pay medical bills out of their own pocket, or because they can't afford it in the first place? is this one of those things that, in general, will improve society in general if it were just taxed and made sure that everyone had it? lastly, i'd just like to point out that insurance is practically the same thing as tax: you pay an annual (or monthly) fee for a service you may not end up using. the price you pay for these fees is mostly the average cost to pay for everyone using the service. the only difference is you pay it to a private company instead of the government.
1. healthcare is not a right its a privilage. 2. i want to pay for healthcare and i want to pay for quality healthcare not the governments sh**ty healthcare.
A milli: Because Canada and the whole of Europe has incredibly **** healthcare right? Because life expectancy in Europe and Canada is higher than in the U.S. right? Because the WHO lists the U.S. as 37th in the ladder of countries with the best healthcare systems after many countries from Europe and Canada right?
