Hunting!

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Hunting!

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by KuraiKozo, Dec 11, 2008.

  1. KuraiKozo

    KuraiKozo New Member

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    My final draft of my report against hunting. Decided I'd see what other people thought of hunting since it was my assignment.
    Thoughts, veiws on the nature and uses of hunting nowadays?
     

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  2. Mong0!

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    Well, I just got out of school so I dont wanna read so much now... maybe later :p
    But, Hunting... I dint care so much as long as they just shoot the animal and dont like, use clubbs or doing sumthing like taking eyes or fur (unsure about that word... its what makes them fluffy... its on their skin...) while its still alive... and ofc, dont kill to many of one sort so that they will exterminate any animals...
     
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    kuvasz Corrections Officer

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    What does final draft mean?

    As for the topic I would make hunting illegal no matter the circumstances. There's airsoft and painball, people should play that. Animals shouldn't have to suffer for the entertainment of some deranged jerk.
     
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    to me hunting is ok in certain situations. Like if you live in the mts and there are wolves killing your livestock and endangering your family and town then if you can't relocate them then I guess you can hunt them but only the ones that are a threat to the town. See this has to be watched carefully we don't want what happened to the red wolves to happen again. We hunted them down to i think it was a few hundred were left? If the endangered species act didn't come right then and there they'd prbly be gone. In other cases I say tough for us. We are the ones killing them and destroying their homes and habitat fragmentation and all that stuff. We need to start looking into what we are doing before it is to late.
    lol this went from hunting to habitat fragmentation =)
     
  5. KuraiKozo

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    by final draft, i mean the final version, the final i turned in for my essay.
     
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    Well I think the text itself could be improved but I'm anal so disregard me :)
     
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    nah, it's fine x3
    I'm open to critique. Because my peer edit only had things like comma usage mistakes (but half of them were right, and she was wrong >.>)
     
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    i feel bad doing that cuz i got this one girls paper once and i wrote so much stuff on it that i had to go to another blank paper just to write about more mistakes and what she could fix she got it back and her jaw dropped lol
     
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    Well written, just one typo (wherethe).

    I have to say, hunting is usually to reduce the population of introduced pests like rabbits and possums that damage the natural ecosystem and peoples livelihoods.

    Also, about not being on fair terms with the animals, our intelligence is our evolutionary weapon, our main survival tool, every animal has evolved to survive whether it be high breeding rate or intelligence to use tools, this is the closest thing you will get to fairness in evolution.
     
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    yes but with our pollution and 5000904298472 houses and bad use of land we are killing them and we are the ones moving into their homes. Like you said we are the smarter ones. Is it really fair for us to move in and kill them when they have been there for 100s of years? Just like was it fair for us to enslave people? Because we had better weapons and clothing and they had a "savage way" (as they say) of living?
     
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    Alot of the animals that are being hunted (all in New Zealand) are introduced species that are killing the native animals and 'moving into their homes'.
     
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    well for starters ill talk about animals we are killing that will effect the whole world. With the amount of carbon we are producing.. the ocean is absorbing part of it. Too much for it to handle. This is causing the ocean to become more acidic. Which right now is starting to kill the ocean life with shells. Small things. If it keeps going the water will be posionious to anything in i think a few hundred years. Which if you look at how long this world has been around thats not a long time. Which wont really matter because we are doing so much fishing in the ocean we will run out of most fish to eat around that time anyways. Also before i was talking about in the U.S when we killed off most of the wolves everywhere because we were afraid of them. We left a lot of them down to the hundreds 1 species down to 4 wolves no lie. Is that fair? not all of them were even around humans... they were just killed incase they came near us. What happened is the deer populations went way up and the grass populations went way down then the deer reached carrying capacity and had a major die off which increased the number of scavengers. Which since they ate most of the grass was killing off the rest of the animals that live off of grass but are smaller like rabits. So do u see where i am going? killing off one kind of animal almost caused the whole system there to crash. The balance was only restored when the wolves were brought back into the system. Which btw im talking about something that happened like 70 years ago. Till this day the balance is not all the way back to what it was
     
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    Hows hunting making the oceans more acidic?

    Thats what i'm saying, in New Zealand, these species that came 150 odd years ago have had a massive effect on the natural ecosystem and to this day are killing off the native birds, things like weasels that eat the eggs or cats and even rats that took advantage of the evolutionary path of the birds that were flightless because they didn't have mammals to avoid for thousands of years. Sometimes hunting for population control is necessary.

    If you go too close to a wolf pup the mother will try to keep you away or kill you, obviously not all of the circumstances were justified but still as you said it was an attempt to keep people safe.
     
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    it was but they went past killing the ones that were a threat they sniffed out as many as they possiably could even ones far away from humans and killed them. And my point about the ocean is we are killing to many animals. and to prove that killing just 1 set is a danger to us i used the wolves because that whole ecosystem almost fell apart without them. Just 1 set of animals.
     
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    Well ok but that isn't saying that hunting doesn't have its uses.

    Like i said, these animals that migrated here in recent times are themselves damaging the established ecosystem, hunting is an attempt at stabilizing that.
     
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    yea i agree with you but all im saying is they should only be hunted to where they are no longer a threat. That cant be relocated or solved without bloodshed then after they are at a point where they arent a threat at that time they should stop being hunted. so we are agreeing and arguing :D
     
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    Well, I'm from Idaho so everyday I'm around people who hunt. My art teacher bow hunts.
    The way I feel about it is if you eat meat, you should be okay with hunting. If this is not the case, you are either a pathetic hypocrite or need to straighten out your priorities.
    If you are okay with the slaughter of animals, you should be able to tolerate the humane execution of one animal.
    On the other hand, people who just kill for the heads and antlers should be hunted them selves. Apparently this constitutes 99% of hunters, according to your report. Sadly, that is probably close to true...
     
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    hunting to eat is ok but if u hunt to much to the point where its going to kill the creature isnt that a bit stupid. Because then you can no longer or ever be able to hunt it for food again..
     
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    Uhh, sorry but heathens should have been burnt down anyway, that's what they're for
     
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    heath hens, not heathens XP