i have been wondering about this for a while now

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i have been wondering about this for a while now

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by ijffdrie, Nov 12, 2009.

  1. ijffdrie

    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    So, in America prostitution is illegal in all states but Nevada. Prostitution is defined as
    But does a porn studio hiring someone for their movies fall under this? and if yes, is it illegal to make porn movies in america?


    When my question is answered we can also use this thread to discuss the potential legalization of prostitution in the united states of America
     
  2. Higgs Boson

    Higgs Boson New Member

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    If it is 97% of porn industry is in serious trouble.
     
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    i2new@aol.com New Member

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    alot of movies out side of the porn industry could possible get in the same amount of troble for having sex sceans inside of there movies. They wont do this since the people staring in those movies sign contracts and so forth to be legal actors. If you pick up a hooker there is non of that involved.
     
  4. Higgs Boson

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    I think that is a fallacious argument. There is a lot of 'amateur' porn out there which I highly doubt is created through a contract and I have never heard of it being legaly persued.

    As for the prostitution itself I think it is a no brainer. There is no good justification why it should be illegal. Anything should be possible between two consenting adults (short of extremes such as assisted suicide).
     
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    Aurora The Defiant

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    It's not the porn that's so illegal. It's the stuff they do in it. ^^
     
  6. LordKerwyn

    LordKerwyn New Member

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    I think the difference is people who star in porn films are being paid as actors, and the scenes are recorded with intention of being bought by the public at large. TBH I think it's a distinction without a difference but I would wager there is a legal distinction somewhere that keeps some ultra conservative cop and DA from arresting the makers or porn films.

    I haven't heard any good arguments against the legalization of prostitution, I would say the main reason it legalized in most states is nobody wants to disscuss it. Also, all hell is going to rained on any law maker in support of legalization by ultra-conservative groups (who pretty much all are Republican extremeists) and most likely it would mean the end of somebodies political career because while there may be several benefits with legalizing prostitiution most people don't care because they want to feel righteous about the issue.

    P.S. Higgs don't knock assisted suicide that is actually more legally widespread than legalized prosititution (or maybe it's equal I am not sure)
     
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  7. Higgs Boson

    Higgs Boson New Member

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    I was not talking about euthanasia as such. I talked about cases such as when two individuals agree to cut off ones *****, eat it, then chop up the rest of him and store him in the freezer. Clearly eventually you get to a point where you stop dealing with personal freedoms and start dealing with insanity and the asylum.

    (and yes the fact that euthanasia is more accepted than prostitution baffles me)
     
  8. LordKerwyn

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    It doesn't really surprise me at all. Alot of people can imagine themselves dying a slow painful death in old age and wanting to get out of it. I doubt many people can imagine themselves as a prostitute (whether they are doing it out of need or something else) or wanting to be with one. Until the benefits of legalized prostitution (taxes and a generally safer enviroment for everyone involved) people will stick with their taboo view of it and demonize everyone involved (in hopes of stopping it by making it an even greater taboo, which never works, look at prohibition). What's most ironic though is the "moral guardians" who shout the loudest about prostitution tend to be the people who get caught with mistresses who are essentially high paid prostitutes.
     
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    the point is american people is libberated
     
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    The Moral of the story being: Its not prostitution if you record the act with a videocamera and sell it to your friends.

    Serious mode on:

    Prostitution being illegal is as stupid as it gets. Most arguments against it are just ridiculous. Obviously, I agree with regulating it (like, for example, estabilishing 'red light' districts to prevent having prostitutes near schools and such).
    As a job, I think its a very noble one. A very old one too. I'd be a giggolo anyday, if I wasn't so shy/unwanted/whatever.

    The problem is, as Kerwyn said earlier, that people think that because something is wrong for them, it should be wrong for everyone. They establish a parameter of normality (if such a thing even exists) and shun everything outside it. When will the world understand that we're all different and should respect everyone's opinions and desires despite our beliefs/likings? (except for extremes, like Higgs mentioned, but prostitution is far from being one)

    Euthanasia, imo, falls in a similar category than prostitution. If I want to die, let me die. Don't get in my way. (unless of course there ir a case of mental illness or such, in which case its arguable)
     
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    It depends on what you mean by "sexual services". I'm one of the few that doesn't watch porn or anything at all but from what I understand you should think of them as more as performers or actors doing sexual acts for the pleasure of the viewers. It is not actually giving you sexual services its just the depiction of it. You wouldnt call romance scenes in books and movies sexual services would you? The only difference is it is censored to a degree.

    Kind of like how violence in video games is okay because it is only the depiction of violence, your not actually going around killing other people for entertainment or anything.
     
  12. ijffdrie

    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    yeah but in video games, no one actually kills anyone, its just bits and bytes.

    in porn, you hire (0-49) girls and (0-49) guys to have sex with one-another and videotape it. i was wondering if it was illegal due to the actors being paid to have sex with another, not to provide services to the audience.
     
  13. Higgs Boson

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    So what happens if I pay a guy and a woman to have sex in my bed while I am watching? Is that legal?
     
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    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    if making porn is, that should be legal yeah
     
  15. Higgs Boson

    Higgs Boson New Member

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    Sigh, the hypocracy gets me...
     
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    Your not the first...
     
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    Thats because they are acting and performing those acts that they are getting paid. They aren't getting paid just for the fact to have sex with each other its so they can film it and provide entertainment to the masses etc.

    My point is ya no nobody kills anyone in video games, and in porn no one is giving YOU sexual services, while in prostitution you are getting them.

    Please try to undestand the context of what I'm saying.
     
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    So the porn actors are not paid to give each other sexual services?
     
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    No, they're paid to act in front of the camera. It's just more graphic acting. Thing is, the ppl having sex, isn't paying the other person(s) to have sex with them. They are both getting paid for the same thing.
     
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  20. LordKerwyn

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    Really the conclusion is that the U.S. has some messed up laws and morals, but then again it is made up of humans what else is new?