Minerals for Gas? Poll

ok, by now i hope a decent amount of people know that you can spend 100 minerals to resupply your gas in 45 seconds. now personally i dont like the idea, it almost borders on hate. it doesnt make that much sense, you spend a limited resource to get a UNlimited resource? i wish i knew what going on in their heads.

here is a quote from someone that did some calculations of it. he is against the idea

Now do you think this is a good idea? Please vote.

PS: this was the best spot to place this thread i thought.

 

Should be locked / deleted and the poll should be added to the original post. Good idea lurkers_lurk, but I tihnk it should be fusioned with the original post (because we already are discussen it there)

 

man!! the polls are even~!!!!~!~~`1` OMGOSHROFLH4X!!

i voted for i dont care if pigs fly btw. =]

 

Ill quote myself:

 

I like the idea in concept, but the numbers definitely need to be changed.

 

I like it. Will add a new dynamic to the game.

 

I'd rather spend gas to replenish the mineral fields since those run out while gass is infinite. Besides I hear "you've not enough minerals" more often anyway

 

Build More Overlords!!

 

This, pretty much.

As a guy interested in economics and such, this is actually a fascinating addition. Will be great for customizing strategies (long-term gas vs short-term minerals) which really change plans: do you build lots of zerglings, or do you save up for gas-heavy units? I like the trade-off and thought you have to give to the decision at the simple level of refineries.

 

I vote 'I don't care'.

However this idea of using mineral to get more gas adds an additional strategy to the game.

Just look at reality. How do we have more oil(=vespene gas) on Earth ? In using money (=mineral) to build more vehicules and structures to forge deeper underground to get the hidden oil we need.

The oil companies earn A LOT OF MONEY (=minerals) thanks to their oil (=vespene gas) they sell to us.
There is less and less oil on Earth so we need a lot of energy and resources, I mean money (=mineral) to get the oil (=vespene gas).So they spend their own money (=minerals) to get more oil (=vespene gas).

In the original Starcraft we have a geyser, and we had just to use it indefinetely. Now Blizzard proposes a more realistic strategy to use the gas. A more realistic strategy like this we use today, on Earth.

I voted "I don't care", I should have voted "good strategy"

 

I'm not quite sure if I like the idea, actually. I liked just expanding on the vespene when it ran out, or when the time was right..

 

would be better if you could research tech to mine more gas/minerals in 4th tier. spend 300/300 to mine 25% more?

 

Not as half-baked as it looks...

I don't like the Statistics of the idea.. As the first quote calculated, it has no real benefit.. it is just smth blizzard thought of to make people with low Actions Per Minute more newbie...

However, I think the Idea itself isn't as half-baked as it looks. Instead of adding more gas to the geyser (which really really doesn't make sense) .. Why not make it so that as the time goes, the refinery gives less and less gas (because it's being used up).. and you have to give 100 minerals so that the refinery "drills deeper" so you can get more gas faster... People who like to strategize and tech for higher tier units can choose to spend more money on making the refineries "drill deeper" and collect gas faster...

but right now.. spending money for gas is really ... dumb...

 

I don't see the sense in the mechanic whatsoever, so I voted against it.

I HATE THIS IDEA!

I don't understand why they would impliment somthing like this, it really just makes no sense whatsoever. Build a building, mine the gas, gas runs out, now depleted; what's so wrong with that? They try to simplify the game by screwing the game over with retardedly smart AI and smartcasting and whatnot, but they add dumb things like this?

It's a dumb idea. Creates more hassle than good to the player, makes maps boring; maps needing all the same gas geyser amounts, adds way too much power to expansions; two more geysers AND more mineral to basically have endless vespene.

Bad idea Blizzard! Golden minerals was a good resource idea, this one, BAD!

 

I like the concept but it needs work.

Perhaps instead of having fixed locations for vespene, you could drill anywhere, for a price.
Drilling in an 'harvesting' zone gives you standard vespene production.
Drilling anywhere else gives you depleted production.
Thus if you really wanted to you could build more refineries to get more vespene and get it faster.
Some maps could have a large or multiple 'harvesting zones', others small or single.
Some maps might only have 'depleted' zones

It is currently 'easy' to quickly harvest minerals, but you can never harvest gas faster than 8 at a time without expanding. There should be some mechanic that allows you to choose to change the rate of production of vespene, but it should be at a cost.

The first refinery costs 100 and gives you 8 gas at a time
The next costs 100 but gives you 2 at a time

100 minerals ---------8 gps
200 minerals ---------10 gps
300 minerals ---------12 gps
400 minerals ---------14 gps
500 minerals ---------16 gps

If you want more gas you can either make an expansion base in which case you will get another 8 gps for 100 minerals, or you can build additional refineries at 2 gps for 100 minerals. To get the equivalent of an expansion you would have to build 4 additional refineries so its 4 times as costly to not expand but at least it is an option. And if for some reason you have a butt load of minerals and you want to produce mostly gas heavy units then this may be a good option.

Keep up the good work blizzard!

 

everythings complicated, and im fine with that coz its gonna be another source for defining whats a pro.. (im not T_T anyway) but since ive heard of it, random thoughts have come to thought if this new style of mining would be good or bad for the game, but since its a unique idea, ill probably go for it...

 

I am wondering something : if that question of using mineral to get more gas was just an opportunity for Blizzard Entertainment to earn time.

I mean Blizzard needs more than one year to complete the game, and they found something for us to debate and to make us quarrell against each other. So Blizzard gets what it expects : to win time to complete SC2 while we are spending weeks and monthes on debates.

Maybe Blizzard will finally not use that mechanic : use mineral for gas.

I am Sogeking, the sharpshooter sniper, and I sniped just on your tentative to mislead us, Blizzard. HAHA

 

Yeah, Blizzard tends to cop-out like that. All to often when a Q&A has a question like "what was the motivation for moving the hydralisks to tier 2" They will give a cop-out answer like "The hydralisks aren't at tier 2 anymore". Well that just ignores the question. We would still like to know why they did it in the first place. Why can't they just answer the question. geez.

They should be spamming us with screenshots ideas and information even including day to day stuff. I realize they can't begin to tell us everything or it will ruin the game, but if you have X amount of people working X amount of hours a day, surely they could give us one interesting piece of info practically every day, right. Instead they make us wait a month to tell us something we already know.

I think it is interesting that the SC universe seems to feature drug addiction so prevalently, cuz I really think Blizz has us hooked to the point where we got this love/hate thing goin. We can't stand the long wait and slow trickle of information, and we snatch up any tidbit they toss us like we're starving. I can't stand this tense waiting period which will most likely drag on for a couple more years before the game comes out, but I just can't live without knowing whats going on. Its really driving me nuts.

i should just make myself forget that SC2 even exists for the next 2 years and go about my merry life and then wake up one day and all of a sudden be like Wow SC2 will be released next week! That we be much better.

 

I voted for Earthbjorn's idea

 

Personally I think they should have made it completely in secret. Then when they unveiled it they'd be like "...the game is done and everybody here gets a copy" Then just sit back and watch everyones head explode.