Need different points of view

If you are not a diamond player, plz do not reply no offense.

I am struggling to keep my rank 1 in my diamond division. I am running out of inspiration and ideas on cool strats. I am always getting countered because my builds are a bit too standard.

What are some effective and original do you use?

Cheese strats are welcome

 

So, if someone's not in diamond they're probably just too stupid to think of a good strat? As yeah, the only thing that gets you to diamond is a good strategy, good macroing and microing have nothing to do with it, as well as practice. Go get your e-peen checked, will you?

 

LOL i never said they were too stupid, i just believe lower league don't have the creativity to come up with good strats... thats why they are in lower leagues.

Any strat they are able to dish out, i am already aware of. Plus you can't tell me a gold/silver player has just as much micro/macro skills than a diamond so their strats are limited.

Im looking for a micro-intensive strat that catches people off guard.

But what the hell, ALL players feel free to share your strats

im sorry if i hurt ur e-esteem add me and play me

 

you're looking for protoss strats? No help here since I only use zerg, but I can tell you 2 diamonds used phoenixes quite successfuly on me. I scouted early and expected the usual 4 gate so didnt bother scouting more... pretty much gg as soon as the phoenixes came into play.

I guess it could work in a similar case where your opponent scouts early and doesnt bother "making sure".

Do you custom sometimes? Mind if I add you?

 

I don't custom, i play all races depending on my mood but i am down for a 2v2.

Feel free to add me but i have a team i play with but you may be in luck at times when none of my teammates are online.

ALL STRATS for all races are welcome

 

I just find it rude to pre-judge people by a label, especially if that means judging people's attributes like creativity.
Good ideas can come from the weirdest places, you don't need a label on yourself to be able to be creative. If university professors wanted to discuss their research among other professors(and not assistant professors/research students/phds etc) then we'd be 80 years behind, technologically today.
There's lots of ways to ask people for ideas, but taking a "I don't want ideas from you, cause you're low" approach is at minimum a rude and ****ty thing to do

 

Have you ever tried the Anti-Gravity'd Baneling strategy? I've never seen or heard of someone doing it, but it sounds like it'd be a fun move to try if you found a willing Zerg Player.

 

PvT: 3-gate zealot sentry, expo rather early. If the terran one bases and attacks early with MM you should be able to hold it off, if they try to expand as well you might be able to delay it.

PvP: 3-gate -> expo -> 4-gate + 2 stargate void rays. If they attack before you have a good amount of rays, just charge up the ones you have on your own pylons before the battle and let them wreck all their stalkers. To attack, make some proxy pylons near his base and charge up your rays on those.

 

You know, I actually think that the most unique strategies come from the newest players.

Think about it, the veterans have played so much they "know" what will work or not. Whereas if you give a noobie like me some time we will throw together all SORTS of crazy stuff

 

Planetary fortress assault! Some dude tried that on me in the placement matches, he was too slow but I imagina it could be sort of effective if done right .

 

lol yeah, its crazy stuff like that.

 

@Stirlitz stop being a baby. You do see profs asking their assistants for advice because their assistant has experience, you don't have profs asking interns. How about you prove me wrong by giving me a good strat and i'll shut up and repost.

RushSecond also a diamond player was so far the only one who gave me a decent strat.

Planetary fortress attack is not original or effective unfortunately, since it does not work agaisnt zerg or terran due to creep and liftoff.

I am intrigued by this graviton baneling... Is this for a 2v2?

 

Yea, it's for 2v2 (or more). Blizzard once stated that Banelings will still do damage when killed under the effect of a Anti Gravity. Although seeing as Graviton Beam stuns the unit it targets, I don't think one would be able to order their Banelings to explode once airborn, so you'll need something to kill them with. I guess the Zerg player could always tech to Hydralisks for that purpose, as well as to provide ground support for Phoenixes. Either way it'll be pretty micro intensive, just as you wanted

 

Not gonna continue arguing. I didn't like that thing on the first post, but whatever, this would go off-topic if we go on like that. Sorry for trolling for a start anyway.

On topic now: Well, what strats have you used already?
Try losing a few matches on purpose, and do it somewhere non-rated of course. Play to your best ability and try something that seems stupid, maybe it will work out with some heavy tweaking into something good. You can't just say "give me unusual strats to try" as usual and unusual are different for different people.

Basicly things that you try and don't work are the ones that can be tweaked or twisted into something good, sometimes.

 

What exactly does the graviton baneling accomplish? Does it make the banelings splash against air?

 

Since you said all leagues, I'm going to post this in some attempt to help u :

1) Cannon rush.
2) Phoenix rush. (Harass tehz workers)
3) Trick them into thinking 4-gate? Or whatever build.

4) Bunker rush.
5) Mass vikings?!?!?!?!
6) SCV/Thor?! =D

7) Roach rush.
8) Infestor rush?!

That being said, I'm in gold league (went to 8th from 80th silver then got addicted to SotIS -- I'll restart ladder in a bit), but i've beaten ~10 plat players (low and high) and a few diamond (mid & low).

imo, sc2 is quite a bit easier than sc1.

 

Its funny how the diamond-level player is labeling non-diamond-level players not creative while he is not creative enough himself to come up with a new strategy...

Lolz aside, try to build strategies around whatever you supplement your warpgate army with. With protoss, the warp gate army will always remain the core of any army simply because those are very useful units that work with anything.

As far as things to supplement with, it doesn't matter what you pick but try and use it to the maximum potential. For example, PvP you can go heavy phoenix early on, with it you shut down immortals, coloxen, VR and all sorts of units while giving your own air units visibility and good mobility through keeping your opponent isolated due to harassment. Plus you can transition to VR once you have air control and just wreck stuff with them to your heart's content.

Stuff like that is really where the creativity in any protoss army comes from (I'm guessing protoss because someone else seemed to have mentioned it earlier so i rolled with it, plus it is the easiest to have a general creativity discussion with.)

Of course, finding what works for you is really a whole separate story... really depends on what units you feel like you can use best.

But then again, im just a n00b13t level platinum league player so I have no right to post anything at all...

 

3 gate + robo, 1 stargate this needs to be unscouted for this strat, build chargelots/senteries in mass, get 3-5 voids, draw enemy from base or keep him at choke, power up voids on rocks ect, destroy his main + all his tech before he knows what hit him.

If he pulls his units to fend off ure rays ure chargelots will rape him, if he doesnt u rape his base, this has been very sucsessful for me ( >10 in my league, Gold ) if ure stargate is scouted tho this hardly works so be creative.

 

Snowden, i know a lot of strats and so do all diamond players, obviously you haven't noticed i want ORiGINAL strats and what you have proposed is not original, again i am forced to say the past 2 suggestions weren't either

i want to see a strat that you guys may have invented and not seen on youtube. Thx sigroth, yours is somewhat original

i have been nydus'ing early with speed-lings and banelings
building a pylon in their corner of main and rushing DTs

 

Unfortunately i already lost my #1 rank