Possible cure for cancer discovered

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Possible cure for cancer discovered

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Fenix, May 22, 2009.

  1. Fenix

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    Problem is, it's Down Syndrome.

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    Cliff Notes.
    People with DS rarely get cancer. Scientists are all WTFh4x and went to figure out why. Apparently, the extra chromosome, the one that causes all their problems, also causes tumors to have slowed blood cell growth, meaning it doesn't grow, nor reproduce.
     
  2. ijffdrie

    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    so does that also go for people with other extra chromosones?
     
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    As far as I know, that's just about the only disability with an extra chromosome. I'm not a geneticist, so I'm probably wrong.
     
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    Cure/Treatment For Cancer Found in Down Syndrome

    This is indeed an interesting find Fenix. Thanks alot!

    I don't see how this is a problem. It's a stroke of luck that scientists managed to stumble upon this discovery. Who would have guessed that a cure/treatment for cancer could be found in a disability. Given time, the protein that is manufactured by the gene known as down syndrome candidate region-1 (DSCR1, also known as RCAN1) will eventually be made into a drug.

    I hope that the scientists will find success in this area and prove to the world that cancer can indeed be cured/treated without the grueling radiation and chemotherapy regimes.
     
  5. ijffdrie

    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    actually there are quite a lot of them, down syndrome has an extra chromosone 21, but there are other sicknesses with other chromosones double
     
  6. Fenix

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    Well it's a problem because it's not so much a cure for cancer as a vaccine. I mean, yeah, you could conceivably inject it locally to stop the reproduction, but it would be far more effective as a vaccine. The problem stems from, in vaccinating them, would it have negative effects on a developing human? Basically, would it cause DS?
     
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    My replies on the cure/treatment of cancer found in Down syndrome

    @ ijffdrie 2nd post

    Other people with extra chromosomes do not carry the extra chromosome 21 as seen in Down syndrome. Therefore, their susceptibility of getting cancer would be the same as ordinary humans. This is because these “other people” with extra chromosomes only have extra X or Y chromosomes which results in other types of disabilities. Only Turner’s syndrome has a missing or altered X chromosome in females.

    Source: http://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/chromosome=X

    @ Fenix’s 6th post

    Yes, the definition for the word cure varies which is why I usually put “cure/treatment” to prevent misleading people.

    To create a vaccine-like-cure for cancer would actually seem possible at this particular point in time. I did some research on this and you know what such things actually do exist. Here is the source below.

    Source:
    http://www.cancernet.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Therapy/biological

    Finally, to your question on whether such a drug would cause Down syndrome. Just because the gene and protein that the scientists are looking at derives from individuals with Down syndrome it does not mean that using a drug from such a source would result in Down syndrome. To get Down syndrome an individual must have an extra chromosome 21 in practically every cell that he or she has. What the scientists are researching in only looks at one of the 238 genes found in chromosome 21 and would be insufficient in causing Down syndrome or any other abnormalities.

    There is no mistake that it would take years to process the protein into a suitable drug from Down syndrome candidate region-1 (DSCR1, also known as RCAN1). On top of that it would take even more time for the clinical trials to be completed. By then there is without a doubt in my mind that the side effects would be reduced tremendously up to a point where it would be non-lethal and safe for global use in cancer victims.

    Source:
    http://www.disaboom.com/Blogs/saydr...ancer-scientists-discover-one-reason-why.aspx
     
  8. ijffdrie

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    @rift, okay, i was just wondering(i havent really had that much genetics yet)

    that thing about the vaccines was rather interesting
     
  9. Lobsterlegs

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    Why DS?
    Couldn't it be "all people allergic to peanuts don't get cancer.."
     
  10. darkone

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    Does this have anything to do with those commercials I see on TV now days, of parents of young daughters, getting their daughter vaccinated with the drug that is being advertised, and it is s'posed to lower the chances of this girl getting cervical cancer later in life?
     
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    HPV and Cervical Cancer

    @ Darkone

    Well, to properly answer your question it would be yes and no.

    Let me start off with how an individual gets cervical cancer. A female is said to be more prone to cervical cancer if she has multiple sex partners or is sexually active. Therefore, this particular female would expose herself to a virus known as human papilloma virus or HPV for short. When infected with HPV the cells found in her cervix would proliferate uncontrollably which would eventually lead to tumours and finally cervical cancer. HPV is one of those unique viruses that can actually cause cancer. So yes getting vaccinated from HPV will prevent females from getting cervical cancer.

    However, not all cancers come from a viral infection. Thus, at this point in time it’s impossible to be free from cancer. What the scientists have found within patients with Down syndrome would somehow hold key to stopping tumours/cancer from ever reaching to a lethal stage and maybe even treating patients with advanced stage cancer.

    One must always take note that vaccines make use of the body’s immune system mainly the white blood cells and antibodies to counter viruses. So if your immune system is compromised even vaccines would be of no use. Which is why getting a drug which treats cancer is better than getting a vaccine against cancer as cancer usually strikes the elderly whose immune system is compromised due to age.
     
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    I just LOL'd when you said "Problem is, it's Down Syndrome." Interesting find thought. Hopefully they can isolate it and reproduce the protein and maybe be able to inject it into a tumor, study it, and see the effects. If positive, mass produce it.

    This just reminded me of the movie I Am Legend.
     
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    "Three years later"

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    Only the body can cure disease. Cancer can be fought by detoxifying the body and strengthening its immune system. Cancer cells consistently form in the human body and are destroyed by your body's immune system functions. Its only when your immune system has become so weak that it doesn't have the strength to fight cancer cells do they become life threatening. There have been clinics that use natural methods to fight cancer, and have been treating patients successfully.
     
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    What kind of natural methods are these?
     
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    Well what if the flipside is true. They work out this vaccine is a treatment for cancer. But the vaccine also gives some of the people down syndrome. That'd be a hard call to make. No vaccine or DS. And both are potentially destructive to any idea of quality of life.
     
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    try exercise. even in people with malignant cancer, the migrating cancer cells aren't able to survive in muscle tissue.
     
  18. Rebel Head

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    From what I have seen, a combination of strict dieting to strengthen the immune system, and the use of special minerals, vitamins, and oils that destroy cancer cells, and detoxify the body.

    One of these include MMS, or Miracle Mineral Solution which is a solution of sodium chlorite (not to be confused with sodium chloride) and distilled water. When this compound is mixed with citric acid and taken orally it produces chlorine dioxide, which destroys acid cells like cancers, fungi, parasites, bad bacteria, and viruses by oxidation. MMS is also capable of treating AIDS, pneumonia, hepatitis, influenza, and many more illnesses. Another is Liposomal-encapsulated Vitamin C. High doses of vitamin C are known to eliminate cancer cells, and this capsulated form of Vitamin C is much better then the regular kind, as 100% of it can be absorbed into the blood stream. It also has effects on detoxifying the body of heavy metals, which is essential in the prevention of disease. There are many others, do some research, the amount of cancer treatment and prevention found naturally is astounding.

    The dieting involves raw foods (uncooked fruits and vegetables) only. This type of diet creates an alkaline environment in the body. Cancer cannot survive in an alkaline body.

    It's a real shame that these treatments and so many others are being suppressed by big pharmaceutical companies, but it is no surprise since cancer is one of the most profitable diseases to them. There have been real stories about such places who try to bring these treatments into mainstream and get shut down by the FDA.
     
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    i don't think it's pharmaceutical companies keeping this stuff down. it's scientific testing. any legitimate research, done on this stuff? i'm sure it'll turn out to be bunk. it sounds like bunk, and yes, i have taken microbiology, immunology, and cell biology.

    "acid cells"? destroys them by oxidation? seriously, that just sound like some snake oil with words to make it sound scientific. there's no specific targeting mechanism, and you're bound to harm your own healthy cells just as easily as the bacterial or cancer cells. you might as well drink some diluted bleach. it'll kill stuff via oxidation, for sure.

    research into methods on how to specifically target cancer cells without harming healthy cells is a HUGE part of cancer research. if there was such an easy way to do it, you can expect a dozen scientists to have found it, published it, and won a nobel prize and be totally famous for it by now.
     
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    I would hate to bust your microbiology, immunology, and cell biology know how, but that kind of find was discovered long ago, and it is in MMS, and many others. I had a friend, when she was 16 she had cancer and one of the medicines I can recall her taking at the clinic was MMS. Her cancer has been long gone and she now enjoys a much more healthy life.