Smokers

I hope you die a slow and agonising death while coughing up your lungs in tiny blood-soaked pieces. Have a nice day.

I put this in the lounge because I'm serious about that up there. No other habit affects other people so severely, especially considering second-hand smoking is the worst form there is. So unless you indulge yourself in a separate room or otherwise away from non-smokers, I hope cancer eats you up from the inside for all the people's lungs you've defiled.

Anyone else feel so strongly about smokers? Or are you lucky enough to live in a city where they're very much limited to where they can smoke and thus don't bother others so much? Frankly I'm getting pissed to the extent where I make audible remarks. Who the **** gave them the right to degrade anyone's health except their own?

 

I feel the same kuvasz but i'm not that angry about smokers. When there's a smoker, i just hate it they ruin the atmosphere when i try to breathe and i had to cover my nose and mouth.

 

And to think that smoking came about cuz people thought it was healthy for you...

I hate smoking, specially cuz I'm reactant to the smoke, sometimes makes me cough really hard if I breath even a little bit of it in. Luckly almost no-one in my family smokes, only 2 I'm certain of that smoke is an uncle and grandmother.

 

You're talking about my dad here, you know...

I hate smoking probably as much as you do, but throwing such words at random is a bit too much. Don't you know some smokers yourself?

 

A lot of my friends smoke, but they don't push it on me. I've never touched a cig but I can tolerate people who smoke, I just keep my distance when they feel like doing it.

 

I personally don't like smoking, but then, let people smoke if they wanna smoke.

 

I do, but they don't smoke in bus stops and underpasses where other non-smokers are directly affected by their fumes. During a night out, that's again different because it's a time of debauchery and irresponsible behaviour with all the booze and everything. And not just that, but it's occasional - not while 100+ people are obliged to take the route you take in order to get to work/whatever, and hence are obliged to breathe in your fumes. I myself move a bit when friends smoke, but could just as well stand up and leave. Because I have a choice.

I'm mainly attacking smokers who totally disregard non-smokers, especially in confined/crowded areas and where non-smokers don't have a choice. If one of your smoker relatives belong in this group, then I'm sorry. But it won't change my opinion.

 

I used to feel strongly about smokers

but then I realized that they are not evil demonic entities sent here to kill everyone

and thus I am much more tolerant, though not completely accepting, of smokers

 

Vasz, well, you didn't specify that before throwing curses around >.>

 

Note 'mainly' in my previous post. I actually hate all the smokers by default, and the type I specified even more.

Maybe I should just run around fluffing a glass wool cushion and see what others think. We have plenty of it up in the attic.

 

hrm, I kinda know how you feel Kuvasz, but im also in a horrible family where almost everyone in it smokes, ARG!

I pester them just about everyday that I see them take one cig out.

 

Lurkers, there's a method by which every smoker can put it down in an instant, literally. It's an electric treatment that eradicated the fag from my family. Even a person who had been smoking for 60+ years managed to put it down instantly - at the price of an elegant meal, and not even per treatment because subsequent ones are free. In other words, there really is no excuse, only the person's ignorence, selfishness, and lack of willpower. Which is why I pity and hate smokers.

 

Woah Kuvasz, a bit harsh there aren't you?

I really don't like people who smoke. Most of them are kind of selfish and just smoke everywhere they can not thinking about the second-hand smoke that is harmful to other people. Whenever I pass a smoker, I hold my breath in as long as I can until I pass the smoke. And then after that, I cough really loud so the smokers can hear me. I don't know what that will do, but it should making those smokers think about what happens if a kid with asthma walked by and inhaled that smoke? What happens if a mom carrying a baby walks by and that baby breathes in the smoke? I think smokers are pretty sad. They smoke it, they know it's bad, and I'm some have tried quitting, but their will power was too weak to overcome the addiction for nicotine. Is it really that hard to quit?

 

Well I can say as an ex-smoker that when I did smoke I made sure to only do it when I wouldn't bother others. I am a rare smoker though with that idea, when I asked some fellow smokers that question they told me they don't care if they live long or not, plus they then laid into me why they should be the ones who have to watch out for nonsmokers, they felt that they have just as much right to do it when they want as nonsmokers have a right to not be near smokers.

 

you acuse kuvasz of such statements and then you say most smokersare selfish, tempL?

i'm really intolerant to smoke, i start coughing really abdly at exposure to all kinds of smoke, even incense in church. I've almosted fainted on three occasions from it. I don't think people should smoke in public areas, horray for bans! It affects other people's health, so it isn't just their decision. then again, drinking can lead people to domestic violence, and crashes from drunk driving. Being high can lead people to think they're ionvincible and do criems and whatnot. So I really think there should be regulations on such things. One, they're not good for people, no matter how much you like it. And two, it hurts people around you. I don't have issues with the people themselves, but i have issues they smoke, if it makes sense. sort of the lover the sinner hate the sin mentality thing. And then, you'd also hae to hate industry even more. smokers pollute the air with their smoke and harm others, but look and industries that release a plethora of smoke into the atmosphere, which is a lot worse. In perspective, yes, it's awful, but I think someone should hold grudges with bigger sources before they start condeming fellow people to die.

 

Harsh? They're legally polluting an infinite number of people's bodies. As if the damage in the average person wasn't enough, there are also pregnant women and people extrasensitive to smoke. But to hell with the extremes - even the average person can stop and think "why the **** are they allowed to cause harm to me?" I say live and let live.

If I was to walk around punching everyone in the stomach, I'd cause less damage by a ridiculously large margin yet I'd get locked up. :wacko:

My first post was mildly put.

@Kurai: cars and factories are a different matter. Sure they release fumes but you don't get them from within a metre or so, and diffusion in the air matters a lot. Also factories are necessary, while that certainly can't be said for smoking.

 

Cool.

It's not like my dad is a light smoker that is actually very careful as to where he smokes, who he smokes around, and when he smokes.

I'm not trying to get him to stop just for people to f*cking whine about second-hand smoke.

I'm trying to get him to stop because I want my father to live a longer, healthier life.

 

I don't necessarily like the idea of smoking, but I still think it is a bit unfair to pass such harsh judgment upon people who do. Not everyone has a stable home or personal life or the moral or physical strength to quit. But maybe I have more experience in knowing smokers than you guys who are the most outspoken against them.

 

I agree. To all honesty I have absolutely have no issues with smokers, BUT when they smoke in a public place that is another story. I have no tolerance for smokers who ignore the fact that no one wants to be near them when they smoke.

 

I have no problem with people smoking in private; their body, their choice sort of thing. However, I have no tolerance for those who smoke in public.

A more accurate analogy than Kuvasz's stomach-punching one would be if I walked around opening up cans of radon in public, exposing people around me to the radioactive gas. Radon can cause lung cancer, just like tobacco smoke. I would almost certainly be locked up for doing this, possibly as a terrorist! I am just releasing a dangerous gas in a public space, much like public smokers do daily.

Needless to say, releasing radon in public would be fine if there were a huge industry devoted to creating canned radon for general consumption. As long as the tobacco industry can lobby to prevent public smoking bans, the problem of second-hand public smoke won't go away.