The perfect government

So anyways I thought this would be a fun topic. Basically we create a description of the perfect government. It's laws how it operates, and its economy. Please keep it mature.

So first topic, is how to pick representatives and how it would make decisions.

 

No such thing as a Utopia.
End of Story.

 

The point of this topic is to try our best to outline what a Utopia would look like. Unless you have ideas please don't post.

So should it be an elective process or something else?

 

It should be an elective process through an extensively rigerous test before being able to even be considered for the position.

 

no idea, but definately not modeled around the current US gov't. I've been losing hope for it in the past few months.

 

The idea of government run by representatives elected based on popularity - what we call democracy today - is probably as good as it gets at our stage. We still have a lot of polishing to do on this setup before were ready to move on.
However from utopian point of view I would definitely say meritocracy. If we can raise general knowledge and education, mabye in the future we will be able to abandon the shallow popularity contest and decide in a unbiased way who to grant power to.

 

I like the idea of an IQ test before allowing people to run for elected positions. Along with some prior experience in public service of some kind. Like being a police officer, firefighter, or teacher. Just something to show they have good intentions for society.

 

ftfy

 

I've got hope for it. I don't believe in the current way it is but. One should always maintain hope for a brighter future, or they loose the will to fight for it. Right now we are in the second guilded age. It's just a struggle between two generations. The Cold war generation and the twenty first century generation.

In anycase.
Maybe do away with a president all together. Honestly the only reason the founding fathers put a president in the government was to cling on to the idea of a monarchy.

 

There is no such thing as a perfect government in my opinion. There will always be some problems just because of human nature. What we should hope for is for the people in power to do their best for the country and its people. That is what positions of administration are all about, serving the people. Sadly, these days not many have that ideology.

Then there is the fact that the people may not know what exactly the situation is in the government on issues. It's not their fault either because there is just no way to know sometimes. The people could get angry at someone in a position in power but not know that they are actually doing what is best. However, that is not to say the people shouldn't ask questions or get angry because the opposite can be true as well.

I also have an interesting question I would like to ask everyone here. Would you agree to an absolute monarchy if it was benevolent?

 

Only if I was the monarch. Seriously once you have some version of a democracy or republic going it tends not to be the governmental style that is the problem as much as the size and diversity of the population. The primary reason people dislike any given government (wether it be a dictatorship or a true democracy) is because the goverment isn't doing what the people want it to do. In a large population that is diverse (the U.S. is a great example of this) there is so many different factions that at any given time anywhere from a quater to half (and a lot of times greater than half) of the population dislikes the government because it isn't doing what they want/expect it to do. There is unfortuneately only a couple of solutions to this and that is to either make sure there is no large countries or have the goverments of large countries interfere as little as possible in the everyday lives of it's citzens. The problem with the former option is smaller nations are more vulnerable to the strength of larger nations and the problem with the latter option is most people want the government to interfere in the everyday lives of citizens but they want a specific sort of interference which most people dissagree on (gay marriage versus the christian right is a good example here).

Unless people change at a fundemental level we are not going to get much better than we have right now, which is unfortunately very sad.

 

the perfect government is an aristocracy with the right people in charge
of course that is never gonna happen

 

Perhaps population control could be put into effect. Maybe by requiring a license before having the ability to have a child. Also another idea would be to outlaw religion entirely, so to get rid of some diversity.

 

There is no way you could outlaw religion in todays current society. There is just too much in society based on it already. Not to the mention that most citizens are religious in some way. Then of course you have the Vatican and the Pope and other institutions. getting rid of it entirely would cause way much more trouble than its already doing.

You can't just remove things like that all at once, if a government were to outlaw religion they would have to do it gradually over time. Kind of similar to what they have been doing to gun laws in the united states. They aren't getting rid of the right to bear arms but they are slowly making it more difficult to do so and imposing stricter rules. First it was the firearms themselves and now they are starting to regulate ammunition and I think eventually if no one speaks against it enough that freedom is gonna be removed entirely some day.

 

Well we could treat religious people as insane and organize a massive treatment program. But I get what your saying. It would be nuts to try and do it all in one day, and would probably drive people to revolt. However steps should be made to get rid of it. This would lesson the diversity issue, and help us move forward.


You guys aren't getting the point of this thread. It's not to be realistic, and it doesn't have anything to do with the world we live in. The point of this thread is to imagine what a perfect government or society would look like. How the government would run, how the people would act, and how the society will deal with certain issues. Think of this like an interactive story and your supposed to include the next chapter.

 

As I wrote previously - Meritocracy is what most of the people are looking for but they dont seem to find the precise word. Government would not be elected in a public vote but rather made up based on peoples abilities, skill, dedication and as the title suggest - merit. Of course choosing the right people is what makes this idea more of a utopia at this moment but if we were to get over that such government would be immensly effective.
People would actually do their job instead of give % of their wages to the poor or claim to lower the taxes in every interview to get peoples votes instead of actually do their fraking job and stop playing on heroes and villians.

 

Aye heros and villains is a big problem.

 

the perfect democratic elected governemnt consist of 20% liberal, 40% conservative and 20% environmentals

so if you have scale from 1 to 10 where 1 is dead redish comu perhaps even black A, and 10 is pure evil blue capitalism

then liberals are 8
conservatives are 6
environmentals are 2

 

exe I am pretty sure your definitions for liberals, conservatives and enviromentalists are not the normal definitions.

 

thats why i put down a scale so all can understand ...