The Terran Army Is Lacking Something.

The Terrans have always been the race known for their versatility. The ability to adapt and roll with the punches has been a major influence on the way Terrans are played. In the original Starcraft, they had a counter to everything, and had no real weakness', aside from a tendency to turtle.

This time around however, the Terrans are lacking a specific role. That is an Air-to-Air attacker. In the last game, there were Wraiths, who were a strong choice. We also had the Valkyries, who, used properly, could knock scores of enemies out of the sky.

Now, however, we seem to be lacking a strong, dedicated Air-to-Air attacker. Sure, the viking looks good and fun to play as, but it seems to me like we need something that specifically fills the role of anti-air. And, like I've said before, if it is caught off guard and is attacked in it's walker form by enemy ships, it will take a huge pounding before it's flying, and ready to attack. That's why i feel we need a dedicated ATA presence in the Terran Army, to tend to this need.

So I'm asking you, what do you think would be a good unit concept to bridge the gap currently sitting there? I personally loved the Valkyrie, and would like to see ti return, or at least its general concept - Splash and multiple rockets. I'd love to hear your ideas, and see if you even feel this is needed. Now, of course, there is no way to know how good the Viking will be until we use it, but until than, let's speculate.

Let's see some brainstorming

 

The Predator was axed. And the Banshee is the one who cloaks.

 

There is no dedicated anti air unit, that's the point of this thread We have the Viking, that's all

 

I completly agree with you DarkTemplol, and I think we realy need a ATA for the Terran. And that the viking should be produced in the factory.
I also dont understand why they removed the predator, perhaps it wasnt a ATA, but its abillity to shot down incoming flyers was a great concept.
I agree with starcraft144000 that the "new" ATA may not cloak, because Terran need something "heavy" (strong) against fliers. So that they dont need to "stand in the shadows" but "also can fight in the light".
But whatever The predator coms back, or we get a new ATA, i think the viking should go back into the factory, and the firebat back into the barrack.

 

I think the Viking can fill the AA role if Blizzard only could make it strong enough, but i doubt they will..

 

Yes perhaps, but if they make the viking a strong AA it cant be a strong Ground unit, therefore perhaps lacking something there.

 

I dont mide the Viking in the Star port but if blizzard is planning on making the Viking the only form of AA they need to hit up to 3 different targets in one round of fire. Just they can keep up with the other air like the phenix or Mutas. The BC as back is nice but the Viking is going to have problems bye it self. I would also like to add i strongly want to remind you about the terrans AA problems might not be so bad because Blizzard has a nasty habit of throwing around Expansions too all there games so expect to see new units even after SC2 comes out.

 

In SC2 it loke like air is playing a more important factor. But you are saying like, it´s not that bad if the first game got sucked up if just the expansion is good? I dont want to wait 1,5 years more.

 

I think the Predator should definately come back, or an alternative to it. Terrans just need an air unit for light air, as the viking is for heavy air (extra damage vs. armored or whatever).

 

I guess they removed the Predator because its intercept ability would look really weird when it shoots down glave wurms and acid spores.

 

Yeah i think it would be great if you had like one for heavy and one for light. :good:
And the predator could later be used as a bulletshield

 

I don't think it would look wierd for the Predator to shoot down Zerg attacks. But the whole intercept thing might be too OP, so Blizzard decided to remove it.

 

We don't really know how much is defensive matrix going to be effective as anti-air. Battlecruisers and Vikings should be enough air-power to take down air enemies if supported by a Nomad. Who says the Viking air-form isn't going to be strong?

 

Give the battlecruiser airtargeting Plasma Torpedoes. One massive attack, one AoE ground or one AoE air. ;D

Otherwise yeah, terran definately needs some dedicated AA. Something that can move. I liked the predater, from what I heard about it.

 

the predator was also one of the coolest looking units ever
it also shot fast and served as an excellent AA
but it was axed....

i like the ability to shoot fast bcuz it just seems to me more like a good AA idea
(cant hit em once so you barrage the area)
this also works with the valks aoe missles (gotta love em lol)

also the AA must be aoe
and not too expensive
just like the corsair
maybe a fast(er) shooting valk that looks like the pred, does less dmg than the valk, and shoots 3 or 4 rockets per burst

 

I think the aerial power should stick with the protoss. Terrans already have powerful anti-ground. Just give zergs a powerful anti-air, from ground, and it would be fine.

 

uhh, no the races should be about equal in air power and ground powre. You don't want one race to dominate another in air or ground. Also, Terran don't dominate ground. They have great anti-ground attakers in the Siege tank and Banshee and Thor and Firebats but the Protoss are hardly lacking. They have Motherships, collossi, zealots, and dark templars and Immortals. I'd say the protoss are pretty well off on the anti-ground side of the game. I think they are a decent match for the Terran. The problem is that the Terran aren't a good match against the protoss in the air. That's why a valkary replacement is needed. An AOE anti air unit is a must for every races fleet.

 

Vikings are good ATA, we do however lack a GTA, i think the cobra or Thor should exel at GTA.

 

PREDATOR!

 

Terrans don't really need a GTA unit. At worst they'll end up like the SC1 Zerg, just better, since Zerg only had one unit (hydras) that could attack air and terran have four (cobras, thors, marines, and ghosts). But if they do turn an existing unit into GTA, it should be the cobra. Maybe an upgrade to give it rocket pods that does some serious AA damage.