tinker with supply?

in sc1 zerglings cost 1/2 supply, which i didn't like very much.
also some units were too good/bad for their supply cost, the most obvious example is hydra, costing 1 food is a bit too cheap but making it cost 2 food would be too much, i always thought 1.5 food was the perfect number for hydras.

another thing was more than half of all the units cost 2 food - all protoss infantry (inclding ht & dt), all terran ground mech, many air units... which i found to be quite boring.

what about doubling what units cost in term of supply and set the supply cap to 500? not only is 500 a nice round number, it equivalent to 250 supply under the old system which is 1/4 more than the old cap. i always wanted the supply limit to be just a tad higher.

then we can tinker with each unit's food cost to best match its power. for example:
zergling 1 food
marine 2 food
hydralisk 3 food
zealot 4 food
high templar 5 food
siege tank 6 food
warp ray 7 food
ultralisk 10 food
colossus 12 food
thor 14 food
carrier 15 food
bc 16 food
mothership 20 food

unit's stats may need to be adjusted slightly to match their cost

 

Personally I think it'd be a big change for the gamers, but I like the idea. Though I don't know why we can't just use .5's

 

it just doesnt feel appropriate

 

The old units were already balanced around their supply cost. Why go back and mess with things?

 

Well, with new units, they would have to be re-balanced no matter what, and they will be. But it would be nice if they let players mess with the supply use in the editor for UMS games.

 

Dont think that Thor will take less supply than a carrier or battlecruiser.

 

yeah but most of the time in bw people (well i would) be protoss sneak a dark archone and steal a scv and harvesters. Then i make a carrier/bc/scourge army and walla ultimate defence. lol. along maybe with guardians/scouts and goliaths if its a real hard battle. so meh. but making the cap 500 would be better... but alot of peeps comps probaly would die for the increased units...... oh wait another question... in sc1 u could only select 12 units.. have they increased that?

 

as protoss i was never able to get an enemy worker, accually. I never really get dark archons either, though.

anyways, keep the supply the way it is, please. it's fine, and will be too confusing.

 

actually i would do it early ingame or wait till they started exspanding then steal the unprotected builder lol. but no one answered my question ANSWER I SAY.

 

Trooper 34: In game demo's we have seen selected control groups of 18 or sometimes 24 units. I'm sure someone who went to Blizconn can tell us the maximum possible?

I think we should be loathe to comment on changing the population cap. It is such an integral part of balancing, something Blizzard are exceptionally good at.

 

well thats good i hated the fact that i would have to send 12 groups of a 100 group army of marines and such. lol but i wouldn't mind blizzard increasing the pop cap. there have always been good at balancing there games so INCREASE AWAY.lol

 

Unit selection is currently unlimited. It makes it a lot easier to control large groups of units. I suppose if Zerglings went down to say, 1/4 control, and you could make hundreds of them because of it, this system would make it much less frustrating to deal with them.

 

I think Reaker makes good points and his ideas are good. But I also think it's too late at this point for it to be implemented. Not because it can't be done, but because people won't accept it.

If they done that at the beginning, some people would've complained for a week and just get used to it. When they first announced SC2, people were still going wow over everything and trying to see what else is new. But now, SC2 has taken shape for the most part, and people's conception of it has been set. If implemented now, I don't think the idea will live to see the light of day due to fan complaint. It certainly would be a good idea for SC3 though, not that I think it isn't a good idea now.

 

Yeah, I think everything should remain the same. (And in the patches there was a fixing for some unit supplies, so Blizz works on balancing hard) Interesting idea tough.

 

lol, do you really think that two zerglings should take up the same supply as a battle cruiser?! :-X

 

zergling 1 food
marine 1 food
hydralisk 2 food
zealot 2 food
high templar 4 food
siege tank 5 food
warp ray 5 food
ultralisk 9 food
colossus 11 food
thor 14 food
carrier 16 food
bc 17 food
mothership 20 food

 

They are just going to have to adjust the food cost for the new units to fit in with the old units, and adjust these as well. I think the BC food cost will be tweaked, for example.

 

one zergling and one marine cant cost same food IMO... zerglings are much more massable so making them cost twice the usual food would screw everything up, massing zerglings would not be worth it, they would simply take up too much food.

 

I think the SC1 system works and will probably be implemented the same way or very similar in SC2, because if you change unit costs you have to re-balance supply counts for depots, pylons and overlords(?)... I think the 1-2-4-6 system is in place to keep things simple so supply buildings/units have a static supply count.

 

I dont know... Seems like the game would just be altered too much if they did that.