Yet another rant on my part, but very open to discussion as usual! Something happened to me today that opened a realization in my eyes. People suck, they are ignorant, they are closed in their little boxes and it pisses me off. I'm not going to go into a large detail of it because quite frankly--I'm sure it's happened (something similar) to you. 1) I was actually mocked today amongst my peers in my English III class for saying I don't just watch Fox News--I watch that, CNN, MSNBC and other news corporations so I can get both sides of major arguments and glean out my own educated opinion without some crazy left-wing or right-wing newscaster telling me what I should or shouldn't think. That's right, mocked for it. What the f*ck? How does that work out, that I want my own educated opinion about something instead of sitting up all night watching Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reily for all my answers? Don't get me wrong when I say that I believe that Republican channels (IE: Fox News) and such give valid points on some arguments---but just like anyone else they have their bias' and I don't like taking them to heart--just their side of the debate. Not to mention they're a bit crazy.... 2) I disagreed with "Enhanced Interrogation"---same effects as before--they didn't even let me get out my points just "YOU'RE A FREAKING IDIOT BRIAN." Now I know this is probably going to be a rather overly-discussed most likely topic here, so let me get out everything I have to say about it first and foremost. I am going to come right out and say that what these people do to prisoners is straight up, unadulterated torture. Let me get my points out though. Let me go over quickly the forms of interrogation that the CIA has used against people. Sensory Deprivation - basically what they do is they inject you with drugs, put you in a solitary room until you can not feel, taste, or smell anything at all. Subjects would be put in this enviorment for WEEKS at a time. They would actually begin tearing out their own teeth and hair fully just trying to feel SOMETHING; people coming back to seeing them with a bloody bald head and all their teeth on the floor. The Scare - Quite simply, they put you in a small box and fill it with giant cockroaches and leave you in there for 2 days. Waterboarding - It's not just "scaring them with water." They are actually re-producing a near-death experience, they are pouring water down their throats and sinus'. This is against international law, I can get the direct law for you if you want. The best part---they say they keep a doctor there to revive the subject in case he dies. HOW HUMANE OF THEM (as they put it). Does that not confirm that this is not just enhanced interrogation, considering it obviously has a risk of death? Beating up - They will literally grab you by the head and slam you against walls; breaking your nose and such. Electricuting you, so forth. I got one thing I want to ask you real quick: If these things work so well, these "enhanced interrogation" techniques work so well, why don't we use them on our own criminals? Why don't we use these techniques on a rapist who knows the other mass murderer in the group. More importantly---Why didn't we use them on the 1994 terrorists on the Twin Towers, or those other Terrorists in Ohio? Note: Those people, unlike people in Gauntamo---were citizens of the US. I can go on and on, however I got a quick story I want to tell you. Tell me how you can POSSIBLY justify this. There was a man in Iraq who the local police thought was a terrorist. They brought him in, and two or three hours later they went "Oh sorry, we got you and another guy mixed up, sorry" (or something along those lines) and let him go. The next day, the CIA came and arrested him, taking him to one of their "camps" things. He thought again it was just another mixup (he was actually innocent, by the by). SEVEN YEARS LATER he was finally released. They waterboarded him, they beat the living crap out of him, they did all that. We spent 50 million dollars of our tax dollars following bogus leads, because we were beating this guy so hard that the ONLY way to stop them from beating him (I'm really innocent and telling the truth wasn't working) was telling him lies. So they finally let him free after SEVEN YEARS and all that of brutal TORTURE. 189 people have died in captivity since the beginning of the war, specifically in Guantanamo Bay with these "enhanced interrogation" techniques. Want to know how much information we got out of those deaths? None, nada. Our old ways of doing things worked, we KNEW about 9/11 WEEKS before it happened with our old tactics, and that's another story though. People who did it the RIGHT way, were fired instantly once Bushs' new idea of "beat the crap out of them and they'll eventually talk." We have not stopped ANY real attacks with these new techniques, at all. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wu4ZPdrRrsg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpzAf9uArG8&feature=channel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7kh6GwfeGA&feature=related Please, watch that in conclusion.
So your point is that current practices regarding torturing in the US is bad? Well this will certianly spur a huge debate.
I've read about that in the newspapers regarding the Iraqi innocent, and I tell you there are even worse crimes that mistakenly were pointed out against innocents. But most of them didn't have the power to or money to clear their names. This makes justice delusional...
No you can't really limit the title to Americans freedom. I would hope its obvious that by going down that path you are commenting the same fallacy you are condeming others for.
Yeah sorry for that, but mostly this issues pertain to american soldiers and military. I recall watching a banned movie of such barbarism against innocents and I can't believe myself that it was happening but it did. Well I don't have much to say but just pray the innocents won't have to suffer as much as those that have. Here's one occurrence in our country that got televised: In Boracay (beach tourist spot) - a female locale brutally murdered and gang raped by soldiers in clark air-base, the suspects where found guilty and as for their punishment they were supposed to be given the death penalty but the foreign relations officer managed to salvage them and make them pay for their sins in their own country. Ever since then nobody here knew what happened to those suspects. The family of the victim grieved of their loss and I could still remember the mother wailing for how stupid our system is for letting them go. This kinds of issues really hurts my people because they still remember how one of our ofw got the death sentence for being mistakenly taken as a suspect for killing her landlord, Anyways... what I also agree with is that enhanced interrogations are unnecessary means to take against someone a suspect with no proof of being guilty, the act itself is considered violence against human rights... World Peace lol
Meh, just to many radicals on each side, people just don't want to listen to the other side. So I'm just going to stay out of this.
