5 Deadly sin of the Noob/Newb

Discussion in 'StarCraft 2 Strategy Discussion' started by toochaos, Sep 19, 2010.

5 Deadly sin of the Noob/Newb

  1. Stirlitz

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    Guys do you even read the original post? Toochaos said clearly this :
    "Don't do something because someone does it before understanding why he does it. When you understand the why then go ahead and practice it" and he went on "I personally don't really process the info provided by scouting well enough, so for the time being I'm skipping early scouting{as it's useless for myself at the current state and I focus on training other stuff currently} and send in an observer a little earlier while preparing for cheese knowing that it sets my economy back. This is a problem but I'll focus on dealing with it on some other time after dealing with things A and B that I'm currently working on."

    You just took an example he used and turned the whole topic around it as if said "Don't scout" or something.


    In the given example: If you can't process the information given from scouting AND you have to work on other stuff like improving your macro, and multitasking(if you leave your base doing nothing while scouting around with the worker and stop making workers/supply depots/units/buildings whatever) then scouting doesn't help you and you should better train on other stuff for the time being and leave scouting for a little later. Saying "learn-to-scout-before-learning-anything-else-in-game" isn't gonna help a newbie as he most probably has other stuff to work on, like training his brain muscle to remember to not queue stuff on buildings, to not forget to build workers/units/buildings start a little bit of multi-tasking, working on remembering stuff etc. After these are taken care of then he can scout, and then he can also learn other more advanced stuff. This is the kind of people this thread is about, really, and those 5 points are quite well posted.
    For this case of a person that's working on more basic skills, 1 extra worker on the lines and 1 less task to spread his attention to is for the time being helpful.

    If you scout and have your minerals rising to 300-400 while at 7-8 supply and have no worker being made on the CC then you have other stuff to worry about and focus on working on learning to do these in a mechanical way, and then when you have those basic stuff running and know that "my build is tight, I'm not staying back on production and keeping my minerals low without queuing stuff, so by this time in my build the enemy can't have a huge army compared to mine" you can start working on other stuff like being more efficient in A or B. Being prepared for a rush against a player that can not handle a rush he's doing well enough easily either isn't gonna hurt you much compared to what will follow. It's low-level play anyway.

    Just to clarify, because people don't seem to get that this post is issued to new players not only to starcraft but to strategy games in general, and I believe it's very helpful at what it's aimed for.


    Ah, to give another example:
    On low levels of play watching commentated replays will probably be much more helpful than downloading a pro replay and watching it yourself as you get an opinion on why the player is doing something ready from someone{which might be incorrect, but it will give you a lead to start thinking}. Then rewatching a replay for which you saw a commentary on will help you see if what the commentator said seems true and how the player actually worked on pulling off that strat.

    Also watching Day[9]'s show will help not only newbies but more advanced players too, the show is awsome :p
    (http://www.youtube.com/user/day9tv the youtube channel, http://day9tv.blip.tv/ for the actual show)


    w000t! tl;dr threshold struck! :p
     
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    Duplicate post =\
     
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    I agree with "RuSHING for that ImBA" unit hahaha. I see a lot of early players go for some kind of EARLy rush to battlecruisers or whatever. Trying to pull off some amazing strategy with that unit.

    The second most frequent one is not building workers. you could have the best strategy, build order or whatever. in the end, you will find your self getting outmacroed. The enemy simply 1a2a3a you to win.