Anyone here a greenie?

You must not recycle too much since you spelled it wrong. Good steps, more than what I'm doing, I need to catch up. Also, I never smoke or use drugs(except medicine).

 

Now im recycling a whole lot, see :thumbup:?

And you could tell me in another tone, as english isn't my native language. So yeah, I get i few words wrong here and there, but i wouldn't bash u if you tried to learn swedish and spelled something wrong. Just letting you know

 

lol

I forgot, what's wrong with bottled water. As long as you recycle the plastic, I don't see the harm in buying it.

 

Well, I guess u are right on one part, but most people are lazy, and don't recycle+ they buy a lot of soda, wich you can't get from your tap at home. So bottled water adds up to the whole in the end that way. Buy it once and refill in the same bottle I mean

But of course if you do recycle, then you are right

 

a license to have children? what next? we send all our old people to the Near Death Star?

 

A liscense to have children makes alot of sense since it would prevent the spread of genetic disorders and would mean there would also be less children born to families who can't supportthem and thus there would be less starving/dead children because of it

 

Like the need to obtain a driving license before you drive. Imagine what would happen if people don't need to obtain a license for driving?

Like the need to check the person's credit history, income, etc before lending them money. The subprime crisis shows the result of not checking the person's capabilities to do certain things.

There's a lot of positive aspect about a liscense for having children. Like BirdofPrey said, at least running some "Background checks" on the couple would be highly beneficial. Recently here in Sydney, a 4 year old girl died from starvation, because her parents did not feed her. That says a lot

The part about the "natural instinct of ours" is highly debatable. Humans are naturally omnivores, that means we naturally have the desire to hunt, kill, and eat both animals and plants. But does that mean humans should kill and eat whales because it's our natural instinct?

 

Nearly every thing that you buy at a Hungry Jacks take-away is Re-Cyclable.

I Re-cyle the lot.

 

I don't mind green people...I just tend to find that most of them are so far up their own ass that they seem to have two heads. Ever seen the episode of South Park with the hybrid cars and people smelling their own farts? Yea...it's really not that fictional.

I have no problem being green, it saves us money, it helps out the environment, and it makes cities cleaner, I'm actually very big on conserving....just don't think you're better than anyone else because you do it though.

 

I do totally agree, but i also think that such a license is needed only when a couple want moore than 1 child, then again for the second, and so on.... harder and harder to get.

Humanity has suffered 2 big blows in the past.

1. The earth is not flat, but round.
2. The earth is not the centre of the universe.

I am afraid humanity will suffer a third soon.

3. The earth is not infinite huge.

 

I agree with you Namor. People seem to treat the earth as if it would never end. Forests are cut down as if they don't end, look at the rain forests, losing miles of forests every day. Parts of the earth are protected against human expansion, but it's not enough. People need to learn that you don't need 3 kids to have a family, 1 or 2 is enough. Mind you, my family is huge: I have 2 sisters and my dad has over 200 cousins!

 

Putting a limit on reproduction is due to the fact we came away from living off the land like other animals, we have created new laws and rules within our societies, and these things make the Human race weaker every generation because in the wild a disfigured child or one that was mentally ill would not survive therefore eliminating the gene which causes it stopping another generation or group which surround the society to inherit those genes, therefor keeping numbers down. So by coming away from 'nature' we have basically messed things up for our selfs and eliminated the natural selection or survival of the fittest rule which all living things abide by and need in the long run for a successful future and a stronger gene pool.

As for being green, lol I use what is available but I don't smoke or drive, I turn lights off when they ain't needed. But my input will doubtfully help the world cuz once forests are gone we are basically gone, unless they invent some shxt to turn carbon dioxide and what ever energies they need to create oxygen, but then the production of such a device and the way it would have to be super mass produced would probably create more pollution.

But in the future hopefully they will be able to terra-form sleeping planets so that they are habitable (yes they have a project on this, mars is the objective and they want to turn it back into a earth-like planet) and the way they said they'll do it is increase Mars's heat levels and producing green-house gases to keep it constantly warm meaning the possibly underground frozen rivers/lakes/oceans melt and what not, then once there is some form of water they hope to put plants on the planet to suck up carbon dioxide from the air and produce oxygen so space suits and life support are no longer an issue. This process would take years upon years tho so we wouldn't be able to see this change in our life times if it even happens so hope for the best to future generations huh.

Hopefully they would have learned by then to work with the natural order and use its benefits without taking them away.

Lol my longest post ever

 

*Warning the following post may offend some people, if you feel like you cant read it with a clear mind, don't.*

As far is being green is concerned I agree we as a race could do better. (and thats all I really have to say on that topic)



Now for the license to have kids, it may sound good in theory it wont/cant work in practice without breaking a number of moral stabdards. First @BoP, doesn't preventing people from having kids because they have a genetic disoreder sound alot like a science from 1930's? What was it called? Oh, yeah Eugenics. Now who was a rather famous supporter of the this science? Oh, yeah Hitler. How many "impure" people did he kill? I would love for someone to tell me that his help in getting rid of genetic disorders was a good thing. (Now admitedly alot of other countries dabbled in the science as well, but I think the point stands)

Now how does requiring a license to have children equal killing people to prevent it? It doesnt, but the goal is the same. So how long would it take for more extreme methods besides licensing come along?

Ok now lets for a second imagine requiring licenseing wasnt stepping on any moral boundaries and it was implemented how would you decide how deserves a license and who doesnt? Whats your goal to make a good child is produced or to make sure the child has a good home? If its the first how the hell can you tell if a child will turn out to be a "good person" much less how would you define who a "good person". Lets take Einstein for example was he a good person because he tried to help society (In some contries) or was he a bad person for helping to design a weapon that killed 100,000 people with just 2 uses? Ok, lets now say that by some miracle we defined who a good person is, how do you tell if a person will come out good? Some of the best people in the world were born to scumbags and some of greatest scumbags in the world were born to good people.

Now as for the child being in a good home that is much easier to judge and yet harder to judge as well because, would be poeple who have lots of money have good homes because they can provide well? Or would it be people with less money who would care more about their children because of the fact they have less money?

Ok now for everyone that believes those situations wouldn't come to frutition because we would never have that strict of laws remember we as a race have a tendency to push the boundaries and we try to make the world see our perspective and agree with us.

So finally while requiring a license to have children may sound good in theory, who gets to be the judge? Who gets to play god? And how could they possibly make a decision thats fair to everyone? In the end requiring people to have a license to have children is simply a bad idea.

P.S. There is probably some points up there that dont have as much support as they could. So if more is needed ill happily provide if asked but I am currently stuffed up and dont feel like typing a 5 page essay if it isnt nessecary. Also if anyone feels like flaming please do it by PM it will make life easier.

 

Lol I know what you mean with the whole essay thing. But yup I couldn't of said it better my self.

But you could say Hitler is an example of natural selection but instead he acted upon his own personal views. (relate to my post)

 

I do agree in most of the thesises you posted LordKerwyn. None likes to have a government/state which interfere with your private life. And yes it gives a hell lot of a power to the persons who will have the possebility to "play God"....

Although, population control is something humanity must face sooner or later....

BTW: I feel that i have to protect Einstein.

He didn't invent the A-bomb, he did only theoretical prove that it was possible to make and so warned the USA president that Hitler could get such a weapon....

Anyway... I guess that I am the only person on earth that is glad the A-bomb was invented. (of course not for the use of it.... the great tragedy's at Hiroshima and Nagasaki)

The reason for that is, if USA and the CCCP (Soviet) didn't have enough A-bombs to completely destroy each other. There would have become a full scale third world war out of what only became the cold war.....

(OMG... I am going to get flamed for this.....)

 

Hmmm, interesting point.....because let's not continue with politics and get back to the environment.

About the fresh water shortage problem, who here supports using recycled water as drinking water? I personally do not like the idea. I mean, it's not a good idea to have 70% of your body to be composed of recycled sewage. Although I like having recycled water to water gardens, flush toilets, and for industrial uses.

My country is having a serious drought problem. The two main problems are:
1. Most rainfall only cling along the coastal areas. The inland regions, starting from about 20km from the coast, will very little, to absolutely no rain at all.
2. Australia is very flat, no tall mountains (the tallest mountain is only 2228m high), no deep valleys, very little big lakes, and the river systems have very little water in it to start with. That means finding a suitable location to construct a dam extremely hard.

The government is building a desalination plant about 10km from my house, and all the locals totally oppose it.

So we really need to find a way to control when and where rain would fall I know that shooting rockets containing silver iodide into the clouds will induce rain to fall......

 

lichking is right. All water is basically recycled water from waste, ect. Sewage is mostly water that eventually evaporates into the air or sinks into the ground. When this happens, the water then mixes with whatever water exists around it. Any waste water in the air then forms clouds along with the water around it. Thus when it rains, some of that water came from the waste water to begin with.

Nature does a very good job of recycleing. Through natural chemical processes, the waste water gets purified of any contaminates. Recycled water is doing the same thing, just at a faster rate. It's proven to be perfectly healthy for you and no documented bad side effects have occured because of it so far.

 

@ mc2: I'd just like to point out that your entire body is composed of the "recycled" constituents of billions of years of life on this planet. It seems a bit paradoxical to fear recycled water being incorporated into your body.

 

My favorite kind of tree is on fire...so I guess I'm not much of a greenie!

 

animals drink water. animals take a piss. the water from the urine goes back into the rivers and clouds and oceans. and has been for some time.