attempted murder same punishment as murder?

It's worth a shot. I'm desperate at this time to almost take any job.

 

look this up, in California there are handicap people who make their living suing people due to handicap violations of their business

 

OMG, this thread is still alive. I thought it would be dead by now....Well I'm surprised.

 

I was hoping it would die out. Something about this subject is irking me.

 

If you decide to kill another human being and carry the action out you are guilty of a very serious crime. Failing to kill your victim and succeeding in killing your victim makes no difference if the act is premeditated.

Both crimes should be considered the same as far as prison sentence.

The brutality of the crime and motive are what should really dictate the punishment, not the perpetrators ability to commit it.

For the record: I don't believe in the death penalty and I do believe in parole for those who have changed.

 

So you are saying that if someone goes to murder someone else and changes their mind but is still caught and arrested. They should serve as much time as someone who did?

 

there is a difference between murder and change your mind and trying to shoot someone and miss
only the last one is called attempted murder

 

Tell that to the judge, when I had that guy down I had the chance to end his life. I didn't though and had him leave while I was still able to think level headed. Later was when I was arrested and charged with attempted murder and possession of illegal firearms, the firearm charge was bogus because I like knives not guns. I was sentenced to community service, heavy fines, plus I had to under go therapy, which I already requested while waiting for my trial, also in a one year period if I got into trouble it was straight to jail with me. After all that, since I did change my mind and let him go, do I deserve to be treated like a murderer and thrown in prison? I will admit I did wrong but I changed my mind, I sought help, I'm not a criminal and I don't think people who didn't go through with it should be treated like one.

 

it has the same legal term, yes, but in courts its concidered something else
if you could kill him but failed, the sentence wouldnt have been community service

 

Well if you assaulted someone...yes you are guilty of a violent crime and should receive some sort of prison sentence.

Once again, I'm not saying you should be thrown in solitary for life or the electric chair for a quick fry. I'd actually say the punishment you received sounds pretty fair. It also sounds like it worked for you.

No judge is gonna go for "Well, sir. I was gonna kill him, but changed my mind as I was on top of him."
Well maybe next time you won't change your mind. Can your lawyer prove that split moment you saw the light and will never harm another person? No, because you were admittedly attacking someone. I'm guessing you ****ed them up real bad if you were charged with attempted murder.

I manage a photo lab and we on occasion get court photos of assault victims. People all black and blue, swollen, and stitched up. Guys, women, even kids and old folks sometimes. If you are capable of doing that, you need to locked up. Until someone more trustworthy than yourself is able to say you are mentally stable.

The weapon charge, I don't know. Were you indeed in possession of an illegal firearm at the time?

 

I don't think I was, at the time I owned , what I considered weapons: a bowing knife, 3 machetes,a glock 9mm,a tazor,some pepper spray, and a stainless steal chain (mainly just used for intemedation). Yeah I know what you mean by those pics, I didn't hurt the guy too bad,I hit him in the jugular, a quick kick to the knee to bring him down, then I just froze. *sigh* to be honest I wish I could apologize to joe, but I'm not allowed to be within 100 feet of the guy. Oh and as for the trustworthy part, I finally got a clean bill of health, well in February anyways.

 

Bralbars... wow! Awesome! Err I mean not about your sentence but... I should just stop talking.

I voted "In a few exceptional cases" because it all depends on the murderer's feelings. If he/she attempts to murder someone and doesn't feel any guilt whatsoever, then yes, he/she should be punished as if there was a murder. If he/she feels guilt then it should only be charged as an attempted murder.

If the attempted murder had succeeded, there would have been a murder. This is what makes it hard for me to place my opinion. A murderer and someone who attempts to murder have the same motive, the same mindset. Therefore they should be treated the same way, however, one is an actual murderer, and the other is not.

I don't know... I'd like to say yes every single case of attempted murder should be treated as a murder just to teach them never to do it again but it's still too harsh. So in only the extreme cases should this occur.

 

I don't think it should have the same penalty simply because if it was just attempted there would be no loss of life despite intentions. They should be punished according to what has been done, an eye for an eye so to speak.

For example, if someone attempted to steal a famous painting from somewhere it wouldn't be as big as a problem if it was actually stolen, despite the fact both had the same intentions.

So think about this, what would you put more priority on in serving justice? A murderer that has actually killed people or someone that just attempted it? it would be common sense to try to stop the person that is actually killing people first wouldn't it?

 

only in a few exceptional cases where it is blatantly obvious that the person was going to commit murder.

I don't believe somebody should be punished the same as murder if, for example, they have written/verbal threats against someone and happen to own a gun. But if they are caught in the act, then yes. If you punish them less for an obvious murder attempt, then they will try again when they get out, and possibly succeed.