Backstabbing

However, all games are more fun when you're winning ;D

Having the unexpected always makes a game more interesting, but no one likes to be backstabbed. It adds risk into the game, but can cause some distrust to form in people when playing with strangers.

 

Actually allowing alliance changes are better because they can BS you without changing it like on WC III in Footies destroy you man structures manually and it'll be harder to take their units out since there are many of them, so I say having the alliance change is a good idea so noobs need to be prepared. I'm not saying this just because I BS for fun because you can attack back easily without manually clicking and it just makes it easier, plus you should be prepared for a BS no matter what... unless you got nothing...

 

Never remove it. It can be fun when playing with friends, while your're talking, someone will trash talk your skills so you nuke em, major lulz if you ask me.

One time my ally was massing like 100+ lurkers (still in egg form) I smelt a conspiricy so i nuked the whole mass while it was being processed, you can only imagine what 100+ lurker eggs sound like when being nuked and the blood shed was amazing.

 

honestly, i couldn't agree more!

sure, getting stabbed sucks ASS, especially if you score the win, and then all of a sudden your ally decides to build 10 nuke silos while you destroy what is left of the enemy.

and lets face it, if you ally is a major hubris ass, then it almost feels good inside to kill him when hes been mouthing you off all game, telling you that you suck, rather than coaching you on how to get better.


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Here's what i suggest, If you are bi-linearly allied with someone at the begining of the game (meaning you are both allied to each other), then if you are, at any point, destroyed by your once ally, OR DESTROY SOMEONE WHO AT ANYPOINT IN THE GAME WAS YOUR ALLY, it will show up on your record, like this.



W - L - T - BS wins, losses, ties, backstabs. this way other players will know, and could choose to boot the Bs'er out of the room.


one thing to add, if two players remove their allies, and BOTH type something into the message box, like "end game," then the BS counter will be lifted, so that the two players may destroy each other in an organized fasion.

anyways, just a thought... power up

granted, there is the occasion

 

Hmm, I like the W - L - T - BS option, but it shouldn't count when you were destroyed by a backstabber. Also if you destroy someone who attempted to backstab you, since you could have been playing fair and it was the other player who changed alliances. I think each player should have a statistic that shows how many times they changed alliances in a game and over their entire career. That would be a much more accurate statistic of the player's BSness.

 

Dude...... THATS GENIUS! :good: :good: :good:

 

well actually just a few days ago, me and my friend were playing a 3v3 game, and this opponent who particularly 'done' my partner in joined the new game we made except this time he would be our ally.

we were cool about it, a game is a game and we lost the first one but he had to actually talk trash after the game started so we humbly agreed 'AIGHT DIS MAFAKA GON GET WUTS COMIN TO HIM NAHMEAN?' and in the most critical moment of the game, we raped his ass.

the end.

 

LOL good one. SC osn't a place for bad mouthers anyway. Most would agree that a person talking trash should be eliminated as soon as possible, even if it is an ally.

 

i wish i could host games >.>
o well

i think that another thing that would work would be that you just play team melee because it is basicly two people playing as one person with. (BTW zealots and medics crush all)

 

Theres this low life in SC Brood war US West, We won a fight against a computer and I will planned to BS then this guy decided to mass and every1 thought he was a backstabber his name was Yearzero[nin] (I think I got it right) he was killing everyone then he dropped he started to swear and say we were Haxors! Day by day He annoyed me and made fun of y record and all he was playing was 7v1 -.-" he had like 186 out of 40 and he kept saying I used steroids, so One day I got pissed and I well got some1 to steal his CD-Key and get it banned (I don't know how) He did not go on battle.net for a long time I don't know what happened or anything and thats it.

THE END!!!

 

Rex: There are hundreds, if not thousands of people like that on battle.net and pretty much every online game everywhere. They do that to get a rise out of you and looks like this one succeeded. In the future, don't worry about it when people are idiots, because they're idiots and shouldn't be taken seriously.

 

Thanks for the Advice now your power level has raised to an odd Number Thanks owerup:

 

Backstabbing was actually encouraged by blizzard, along with gloating and a few other suprising things, U can read for urself, its either in the manual or strat guide, but its there! Therefore I believe B-stabbing will remian, I for 1 have no problem with this, u back stab me.... U have just tickled the grizzly bear sir.

 

I hated it when ppl backstabbed in impossible maps on UMS. Many, many good games have been ruined by one guy thinking its fun to ruin it for everyone else by psi storming our units at the map's starting point.

Sucks waiting 5 minutes to start a game only to have one person screw it up.

 

i guess stalker is the best backstabber.

 

In starcraft II there will likely be two different game modes, separate of ladder -- one which will allow unallying, and one that will not -- just like in starcraft.

 

I personally prefer FFA's; takes care of all the diplomacy by throwing it out the window.

However, in team games, the only change I would ask is that when a player unally's you, you auto-unally them and get a little text warning.

 

you have to keep backstabbing in the game, as sometime, people make temporary alliances and want to have a decisive victor in the end. I have backstabbed only once, and i warned the person beforee i did it. that was because i wished to have a person in first place in the end, so i think that it should be availiable, but the backstabbed should be warned.

 

Lol lets think up the best backstabbing units.

I'll forget the obvious ones like the Ghost and nuke. Ahahahaha good times.

Banelings will be the most feared backstabber IMO, you'd think he is gonna help you them BOOM they level your base.

Also you don't want a Protoss to backstab you cuz an Immortal can **** up your tanks and you couldn't do nothing. Not to mention them controlling the air with Phoenix.

 

I haven't played Bnet vigorously in years but I thought alliances were permanent in the top vs bottom game style.

If not, then do that.

I think open diplomacy is a fun element that never took off in SC. There could even be a ranking system in place where you garner more points if you win by yourself rather than with a teammate. Just like in real life, don't trust mother ****ers you don't know with your life. Or abuse their trust. Games would feel more like battles than matches.
Just keep this as a separate game type: "The Art of War".

People back stabbing in what is meant to be a team game is not cool. People doing it in a setting where all are well aware of the possibilities is fun.