Death

Now that I think of it, I'm with Willy also, except about the bored part. I'm just afraid that there is nothing after you die.

Also, why should you not be afraid of death? If you don't do anything special or become famous, you are just forgotten. Even your own family will probably forget you after a few generations down the line. Death erases our existence. Aren't you afraid of people forgetting you? Think of a family member who has died. Do you still think of them everyday now, like the week after they died? Most likely,no. Do you still cry when you think of the deceased family member? Maybe your eye gets a little wet but you don't have that crying fit. Do you still depend on them as much as you did when they were alive? No. That is why I fear death, the fear that I will be forgotten by people and like I had never existed.

 

a) If you're religious you believe there's something better in stock for you than people's memory. Besides, they'll join you anyway sooner or later.
b) If you aren't, you most likely believe death is the end. At which point you won't be there to care about anything, much less others' memory.

I see why someone would be afraid of death if they believe it ends everything for them. But being forgotten? Won't matter in the end

 

A pretty good Generlization..

Thumsb up.

 

I fear death for the impact it would have on my family.

there are 2 things i wonder about!

1. the evolution that we evolve to fear death because we must exist to continue our species.
2. the evolution that we evolve to fear death, go through ANY pain to stay alive, because... well why would you evolve to do this (not considering 1) there must be something pretty bad after death to cause this inheriant fear in EVERY living creature. And im not talking about my long lost socks behind my cupboard bad.. im talking bad enough to make existance the 1. priority on every creatures mind!

thats right gentlemen once you die you meet the boogey man

just a silly theory to spark some imagination

 

Meee, number two is not that good of a summary. I would care about who remembers me and how I have impacted the world even when I'm near death. It's when you are near death that you think the most about your life. You think about all the things you did wrong and what you could have done to make it right. You think to yourself, "Did I have a good life? Will people remember me as a good person?"

 

What I meant is that after death you won't be there to care about those things. And since in the end it won't matter why should it really when you know that you're going to die soon?

I respect your feelings, but it's just something others might call irrational fear.

 

So if it doesn't matter after death, then why have a job or go to school all day? Why not have the time of your life and commit crimes since it wouldn't matter after death now would it? Not, irrational fear... just rational thoughts. You don't fear death? So you don't fear never existing? You don't fear that you won't ever be conscious ever again? Even if you are religious, you don't fear that you may go to hell?

 

What you do with your life is your thing. But as long as you live (and especially if you're atheist), you probably want to keep it that way, if for no oter reason than your survival instinct. How you affect other people and what they think about you now is important because it affects you in turn. I'm just saying it won't matter what they think after you're dead since you won't be affected in the slightest.

The thought of ceasing to exist isn't a pleasant one for sure (kinda better then hell though), but right now I'm not expecting to die anytime soon and when I do, I won't even be able to realise it.

 

But still, if you are religious, wouldn't you want to be remembered and not forgotten like the other billions of humans who have already died in the past?

Well, if the thought of ceasing to exist isn't pleasant, why not fear it? Besides... I just might even choose Hell over the loss my conscious thoughts.

You are right Meee, you won't realize when you are about to die. Death comes in strange ways some times. Just like the person who was impatient and heated up his lava lamp on a stove and it exploded and a piece of glass went into his chest and he died bleeding to death.

 

It's not about about dying, but actually having died. Whether you die by surprise or not doesn't matter.

 

*sigh*
I'm done with explaining the whole forgetting thing, if you still don't get it it's your problem.
Personally, I don't care about being forgotten now, so I won't later either. And as I said in case of religious (specifically Christian, since that's the one I'm most familiar with), the people you don't want to forget you will join you in Heaven sooner or later, so forgetting isn't an issue at all. If they'd have a hard time you can always try to pull some strings with God

Working isn't pleasant for me, nor is having an injection. Do I fear them? No.
Ok, one last time. It's not about now, it's about after you have died. Try to imagine it, you're dead and have lost concious thoughts. Therefore you can't think of anything at all right? Including caring for if someone remembers you or not. So we can safely assume that when you're dead you don't care about people remembering you.
Now looking from that perspective, I might as well not care about it right now, since it won't matter in the end (that is, when I'm dead). It's a choice though, you can take your time worrying about it if you want (though it'd be probably better to use that time to do something they won't forget ). Note as I've said earlier worrying about opinion they have of you now and after you're dead are two different things.

The same applies to fear of death. If will cease to exist anyway, it's pointless to me worry about it.

As for Hell, it all depends on what really IS Hell, which we don't know and will never do until it's too late. However the idea is eternal suffering with no chance of redemption and that's something I'd rather not take part in.

 

It's not that we don't care, it's that we can't care. Since religious people would say they go to heaven, that means they can care and will care about if people remember them as good or bad, or not at all.

Exactly, so you do worry if you are remembered after you die. And worrying about how people think of you alive and dead isn't too different. If you are religious, you'll be up in heaven, but what about Earth? Your chance to do something good with your life and you do nothing except live a normal or bad one, just to die and live in "happiness". How exactly would you be happy if you have no sense of identity? Same as if you're alive.

But since most people on Earth think that there is an afterlife, most should care. You can't really affect anything on Earth once your up in the sky and all. You have only one life and if you don't take advantage of it, it's pointless to even exist .We aren't talking about it from the vantage point of already being dead, we are talking from the vantage point of now.

Besides, this is about fearing the action of becoming dead. Do you not fear never existing? Do you fear death/dying now?

 

I'm really done. You either don't get it at all, or won't accept that others may have different opinion than you.

Iirc Christians define happiness as being in the presence of God, which you will be in when you're in Heaven. Don't ask me how it works. There's high chance no one still living knows that. I'm not really sure I like the idea either...

I don't fear dying now, because I have nothing to lose

 

Oh come now Meee... You are nothing like ItzaHexGore... I do get it, I'm just asking you questions that haven't been answered... Yes... let's not force Fenix to lock his own topic, for that would be tragic...

Anyways, why wouldn't you have anything to lose when you die? You lose your family, your family loses you. Oh, nevermind... you get forgotten anyways, my point contradicts itself...

 

See how easily it works?

And I agree, I am nothing like Hex Gore. Or that other Itza guy, the chips or sumthin...

 

Why is the continuation of your species the 1. goal on every creatures mind?

someone explain ;<..