ExtraTerrestrial Life

Yes there is ijff. Look how we breath, its the same thing except they compress methane gas and release it from the other end.
I found those little spikey things pretty sketchy tho.

Samir, why do you think that?

 

ExtraTerrestrial Life? Of course its very likely!
ExtraTerrestrial Life looking like humans and speaking english? Nono...

 

Agreed. Although they would have to be dextorous to manipulate their environment which further induces evolution of intelligence.
Its like a tree is perfect at doing what it does meaning it doesn't need to do anything more, but what happens when a tree grows an arm with fingers?

Oh and I'dlike to add, where you may think something ike a tree is simple. You're very wrong. IMO, trees are extremely intelligent, as instead of physcially altering their anatomy(?) to allow further intelliegnce growth thru evolution, they have other organisms do everything they wish for them, they even have us doing their work for them which is to spread, genetically become stronger (selective breeding) etc..

 

I don't think plants can be intelligent.
Now dolphins...

 

If you're gonna rule out what I said atleast attach an explanation as to why they can't be intelligent. Is it even possibile to define intelligence as it could come in so many forms...

 

I would not call trees/plants intelligent, although I dont want to get into argument about whats intelligent and whats not since I really, really dont want to argue about that right now.

As I said. There are definetly tonnes of different kinds of bacteria/viruses out there, perhaps even more extrodinary than DNA based organisms. Why should out of so many places every alien look like human or even insect-ish thing (vis. Alien)? We are organisms based on carbon, almost all of life on earth requires water and we all carry DNA. Imagine alien who doesnt have any of that and is based on something completely different, say, silicon?

edit: imba typo!!!!!!!

 

Lol you might wanna change that typo into insect.
And yes I think its very possible for something to have a totally different atomic make up, although we are made of the same stuff, it just depends on which combos produce what.

Also I was thinking. If we can create all these computer type technology stuff, what stops it from existing independantly somewhere else.
Its like we could of been made elsewhere, yet here we naturally came to be.

 

Are you trying to imply that we are intelligent? Most probably if we discover alien life, it will be because they discovered us first (at the speed we are evolving...) And if they discover us first, most probly they are going to say, these lifeforms ar as intelligent as my Digital Watch.

Relativity is something that a great man discovered and thought something really important in life.

NEVER take anything for granted.

 

And you're assuming we're the least advanced species why? There's a lower chance we'll meet a sentient race, much less one more advanced than ours, than there is of meeting primitive alien lifeforms.

 

@Wlck742 : I was showing Biz that it could be the complete oposite of what he took for granted.

Technology: I did not assume anything, I personnally think that we have 50% chance of finding sentient life forms more or less advanced then us.

Intelligence: I think that the human is not really hard to beat on that point. This quote says it all

<xterm> The problem with America** is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

** I'd change America with Terrans. (Quoted from Bash.org)

 

I'd say finding less inteligent lifeforms is more likely than more advanced than us - Even if we aren't the brightest in the Universe there aren't many species on Earth with comparable intelligence (as far as we know).
That said I also don't think the chance of meeting highly advanced lifeforms is that slim - after all these would be probably the most noticable ones

 

I'm not taking anything for granted, what are you talking about?

What I was getting at is that we have a much higher chance of discovering some microbes rather than a sentient species. Maybe I should have used "sentient" instead of "intelligent". Bah semantics, *rolls eyes*.

Unrelated to my reply:

Here is that article I was talking about. Make of it what you will. Linksauce

 

if there were intelligent presence outside our world, if they are more advanced than us, why had they laready invaded us and enslaved us ?

 

Movies are not real. Tooth fairy was a lie.
1. They probably don'y give a damn about us
2. Humans are dumb and would probably wage war
3. Their genetic make up isn't used to what is native to earth
4. Maybe they are watching us now?
5. Why enslave us if they can have machines do it
6. Bush

 

@ Samir Souleyman. What if we were more advanced than them? Would that mean we had to have invaded them by now?

 

This is what I call a discussion...

Anyways, ItzaHexGor, your absolutely right about the way we would act toward other life forms or the way they would act toward us. People would want to study them and they probably won't want to be captured and held for weeks. What I meant earlier was that scientists are always searching for water, maybe only our life needs water to survive. Maybe other life needs gamma rays to survive. Just a guess...

What about all those stories about UFO's, there has to be some truth behind that. Someone couldn't have just made it up and around the world other people see the same thing. I dunno, it's hard to tell between fact and fiction because of al lthe douchebags out there in the world. If the only people we had on Earth were truthful people... Oh man! What a life that would be!

I someday hope that we will be able to find intelligent or at least some kind of life even if it has no intelligence. It woudl be so cool. We could like show them around and let them borrow technology and other things. But that would have catastrophic effects because humans are corrupt... Any of you read the series of books called Animorphs? The Andalites felt bad for the Yeerks and gave them technology, and then they are trying to dominate the universe.

 

About the UFOs . . . seems to me that UFO sighting reports began to erupt and spread like wild-fire ever since commercial flight was invented, would there be a connection?

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One thing I always find funny is when people say humans are stupid, or unintelligent -- hello, you are human too buddy! I believe we humans are really extraordinary beings, surpassing the intelligence of all other life on earth combined.

 

Intelligence is a relative term. We can't really classify a species as intelligent or unintelligent. You can't really use it to classify living things, y'know? We're sentient beings, meaning we have emotions, thoughts, personalities, etc. And it's most likely that the first extraterrestrial lifeform we'd meet would be a microbe, possibly even in our own solar system. Not that I'm saying it's impossible to meet a sentient species, but it's much rarer. Just for a reference, take the number of species considered 'sentient' and compare it to the number of species regarded as ''non-sentient.' There's a lot less sentient beings than non-sentient beings, which is the why I think it's more likely to come across non-sentient, more primitive organisms than a species such as us.

Besides, if aliens were watching us and are watching us now, I think I know why they haven't shown up yet. They don't want us to meet them.

 

The Bible doesn't say anything about aliens, so they don't exist.

 

They would want to study us as well. Even if we did want to be studied by them, as a way of giving them information, etc, etc, we would not know their intentions or what they're doing to us.

You can easily imagine how vets would perform check ups on pets and such, give them a couple of worm tablets, take a blood sample, take scans, tag them, maybe they'll even have put them under anaesthetic, and put them in a cage to rest for the night. It's all done carefully and with good intentions. However imagine it from the point of view of the pet. They're forcing you to swallow things, poking you with sharp instruments, attaching all this equipment, put in machines that omit strange wounds and noises, having things shoved over your face, suddenly you're waking up in a daze and locked in a cage and abandoned. They don't know what is being done and don't know the vet's intentions. This would apply to both us studying other life forms or other life forms studying us. Regardless of intentions, whoever is being tested on would be scared, stressed and panicky.

What I'm saying is that scientists have obviously studied everything they can about life and what life needs to survive. They'd be able to prove that life can't survive off gamma rays or anything. Even if they can't, they at least know that certain lifeforms require water, so that's a definite one to look for. For example, if you know that someone goes to the park every day, you're going to look for them in the park. That doesn't mean that they won't be in other places or that other people won't be in the park, but you know that's a definite place to look for them. Otherwise you'd be looking in libraries, restaurants, internet cafes, stations, random houses, etc. There's the slim possibility that they could actually be there, but you've never known for them to go there and there's a chance that they never do.

Also, these scientists aren't just looking for extraterrestrial life, most of the time they're looking for hospitable planets. We need water so a hospitable planet would also need to have water. If that planet has life as well, then it's proof that it's at least able to sustain life. They don't just go looking for aliens, they're usually looking for hospitable or inhabitable planets.

You're right. There definitely is truth behind the stories about UFO's, but that truth isn't that they exist. There are explanations for all these things. I remember hearing a report one time of a UFO that was commonly seen at a certain time, in a certain place in some city (sorry, I can't remember the details). It was a light in the sky that slowly came into view, hovered there for a second and then shot off into the distance. It wasn't just a one off thing and wasn't just a crackpot story, as it was seen multiple times by multiple witnesses. Anyway, it ended up being the refraction of the headlights of cars driving over a road on a hill a couple hundred metres or so away. As they drove over the hill the light from their headlights would refract, bending to appear as a hovering light in the sky to observers who were standing in the right place. As the car came over the hill the light would slowly come into view, as the car drove over the peak the light appear to hover there, and as the car turned the light would look as though it whizzed off into the distance. That's just one example of how coincidental and unexpectant the logical explanations can be.