god

I'll just say there isn't proof that god is real, but there isn't proof god isn't real. People believe because they have faith. Faith is the answer to believing.

 

There isnt proof that blue tac men are not real either.

 

Absence of evidence =/= evidence of absence

 

To get technical Renatus there is no proof you exist either.

 

Yay, we are talking about god again... I'm an atheist.

1) No evidence
2) .. uh... no evidence?

If I said a fairy existed, does it mean it exists because even if there is no evidence, it can still exist?

The main argument religious people use as proof is the Bible... But it's just a book...

 

"You need to believe in things that aren't true. How else can they become? " -Death

 

wait, what??

where is that quote from?

 

It's too bad that there is more evidence for the judeo-christian god than any of your strawman satires.

There's no proof that God doesn't exist, so you're going to fail.

That's what most atheists claim, yes, but that's because the vast majority of them are uneducated. There's plenty of evidence i.e. historical, testimony, etc.

 

Historical evidence that god exists?

Like dinosaurs? Oh wait, christian god failed there.

There is no historical evidence for God. What you would do well to dispute however is historical evidence for a character or man known as Jesus. What his capabilities were, who he was, what he did, is all up to question, as darktemplar said - there are contradictions, inconsistancies, but overall its inconclusive. A man called jesus may have existed, but it would be foolish to not believe that such stories are merely exaggerated tales.

 

Seems that the Christian clique/cult here have made consecutive comments about 'evidence of god's existence', so, what are they then, exactly?

 

Can you give me one day to write it? I'm in the process of writing it but it's going to take me awhile. I'm making sure to cover all my grounds and come back with a well thought argument.

 

absence of evidence doesn't equal evidence of absence
The romans had no evidence of sub atomic particles, does that mean they didn't exist until recently?

 

Pratchett's "Hogfather"

 

There were, however, sensible theories about atoms even then and before.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democritus

Today they have been proven. Unlike unhistoric, unscientific 'theories' of 7 days of creation and 5000 year old earth...

 

There are many things in Bible that are not to be taken literally. Especially when number 7 is involved.

Know the part that tells you to forgive 77 times? It doesn't mean don't fogive after 78th, it means always forgive.

 

Not to be taken literally? Then how the hell can it be considered a 'historical testimony'? Were people created out of clay and women out of ribs or is that a symbol for something?

 

Don't quote the person above you

Is it even considered historical testimony?
Most priests I knew said that Bible is not a history or geography book. In fact some of them share a theory that humans evolved from apes and god gave them soul then, not created man from scratch.

 

No one is above me (pun intended).

Anyway, if the bible is not to be taken as something historic or geographic, and scientific for that matter...what kind of book is it then, if not pure fiction? How does it explain things?

And I am glad there are some pseudo-sensible priests, as much as I loathe the clergy. Btw,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camilo_Torres_Restrepo

 

Okay here on my thoughts on the matter. The Bible is a historical document. Yes there are symbolisms in it, but not the whole Bible is nothing but a symbol. There are historical facts that have been found that agree with what the Bible says. You can't disagree with that fact. As for the existence of God I would point to the Bible put it would be pointless as some of you don't believe in the Bible at all. Many of you on here are expecting some mathematical proof that God exists. Well I can't provide one. Just like I can't provide proof that 5 minutes ago we just all came into existence and every memory is fake. Heck I can't prove George Washington existed. There paintings but is that really him? There's written papers but you know what the Bible is a written document. I say there is evidence in nature that God exists but I know you'll scoff. Every came into existence because of something. Something can't exist without a cause. Plus there must be a starting point for all causes. You people have made up your minds so that any argument I make will be useless. So why bother with you? I say, and I hate to be so rude, to hell with what you guys say. Nothing you say will change that fact that I say God exists and that I can feel His presence. Nothing will change your belief that He doesn't exist because you have made up your mind. These arguments are as useless as someone flapping their arms in hopes of flying. It doesn't hurt you to believe in God in fact it brings a peace about you If you don't want that peace then go ahead and not have it. Sorry if I sound like I'm rude but I feel that this is how it just is.

 

If it sounds like I'm damning people I'm not meaning to. All I'm saying is what's th point of arguing with someone who is so bound adamant to saying God doesn't exist.