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how do you want to be buried/cremated/donated

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by ijffdrie, Oct 16, 2008.

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how do you want to be post-deathed

  1. burial

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  2. cremation

    28.6%
  3. donation to science

    28.6%
  4. other

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how do you want to be buried/cremated/donated

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by ijffdrie, Oct 16, 2008.

  1. Light

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    Actually, I would like my body to be made into a scarecrow to frighten little children.

    it would be funny
     
  2. Baal

    Baal New Member

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    Being turned into ash is the way for me. A traditional burial is way too expensive. Hell I wouldn't care if I was laid in a field and set aflame.

    Plus I don't find the thought of being put in a box inside of a hole too charming.
     
  3. ItzaHexGor

    ItzaHexGor Active Member

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    I don't really know if you're joking here, so I'll just briefly assume you weren't, and if it turns out that you were, then you can just ignore and dismiss the following.

    Heart conditions don't exclusively effect people who are fat, nor to lung conditions affect people who smoke. In short, not everyone who needs a donated organ is some loser, and even if it is due to them being fat or due to cigarettes, it's not always their fault. There are many conditions of the heart, lungs, etc, that can affect perfectly healthy people's lives, especially if they already have conditions such as diabetes or are victims of second hand smoke. I'd go into further detail about the sorts of conditions that can affect perfectly healthy people, but I think I've made my point.

    Lastly, however, I'd just like to add that age is also a factor. There're tonnes of old people whose organs are failing on them. I remember a couple of years ago in Science we watched a video about an old man who needed a heart transplant. He was old, frail, constantly on life support and hooked up to a whole lot of intravenous drips and everything, used a frame, could hardly even walk, and all he was really doing day after day was waiting to die. Fortunately for him, a transplant arrived, from a teenager who died in a car crash, and afterwards, it was just amazing. He didn't even look like what he used to. He looked about half what he did before, he was actually red in the face, laughing, joking, active, energetic and was able to play with his grandchildren again. Totally. Different. Person.

    Another, more personal, example is my Grandma. She's had countless problems with her heart for the past few years, and a couple of far-too-close-for-comfort calls, she's got a pacemaker and had several operations. If her heart simply starts to fail on her, which is scarily likely considering the problems she's had in the past, she'd need a transplant. Now she's never been fat, never smoked, probably never even sworn. She used to always take us kids out with her and Grandpa to movies, to IMAX, to the beach, to the leisure centre, etc, but now she's not able to as often, if at all. Now why would you consciously decide not to donate your organs if you can potentially save people like this? You don't need them. You're dead. Why not let someone who does need them have them? All because there's a chance that it might go to a fat person or a smoker? Even if it did, which is pretty unlikely as fat people's conditions don't usually relate to their heart and more to other blood vessels in relation to cholesterol and arteries, etc, and also seeing as the problems plaguing smokers aren't simply confined to a single organ, do you really think they'd continue with that lifestyle? You'd give them a second chance. Not just another chance at life, but another chance at leading a healthy life. And what do you suppose their views of smoking or obesity would be after they went through something like that? They'd be totally against it, and they'd be able to share their story with others, friends and family, convincing them to give it up or lose weight, like we're seeing in a lot of ads nowadays.

    Finally, why would you donate them to your own family and not someone else? If your family doesn't need them, there are people in the exact same situation that do need them. People who are cared about and care for others just as much as your family is cared about and cared for by you.

    Again, if you were joking, feel free to ignore all that. That rant, which is longer than I intended, can be applied to anyone who doesn't want to be an organ donor, not just you.
     
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    I'm talking about the embalming fluid
     
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    ORLY?
    I know some people may use them, but I just don't know how my remains will be used, and, until proved wrong, I claim my right to dispose of my remains the way I consider the best for me. If there is a probability, even low, that what made me what I was, will be given to some l#me #ss I would probably not respect if I would still be alive, I just don't want any help whatsoever from me to be provided to such person.

    The original question of this topic is:
    "Do you want...?"
    "I want..."
    I provided my reply. Period.

    Some other people may need my remains? Oh, poor of them. You know what? I am dead, I don't give a f####ck!!1
    If it's somebody from my family, ok, sure, no problem. Otherwise, you suffer? Erf, too bad, kthxbye, cu soon lol.
     
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    Yes, so refusing to donate organs on the grounds that they may be given to fat people or smokers is just stupid.

    You do know what will happen to them. If you become an organ donor, your organs will be donated to people who need them. It's hard to get your head around, I know. Besides taking your organs for donations, assuming you die in a way in which they can do so, your body will still be buried, cremated, etc. It's not as though they take every single piece of your body and give it to someone else.

    Besides, why do you actually care? You'll be dead.

    As I've said before, if you actually read it, problems such as obesity and effects from smoking aren't simply resolved through an organ transplant.

    All in all, there's a shortage of organ donations, so regardless of who specifically gets your organs, you're supplying the system with more, meaning more people can get the transplant they need. Again, even if some of your organs do go to a jerk, that jerk would have essentially stolen someone else's transplant if you didn't donate, due to the finite number of donations. By donating your organs you don't just help the people who get your organs, you help everyone who needs a transplant.

    So? I can't discuss your and other people's replies?

    Reading stuff like this almost makes me wish you need a vital organ transplant someday, but for your transplant to come one organ too late. Now obviously I don't actually wish that upon you, but I hope it helps to put things in perspective, not that I believe it will.
     
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  7. Daseti

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    I want my body to be dumped in a public park :D
     
  8. AcE_01

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    ^
    lol, i dno but that sounded funny and random
    xD
     
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    I knew that tone in your speech reminded me something:

    http://www.starcraft2forum.org/forums/showthread.php?t=5712&page=2

    The guy who started that topic about famine, and didn't like much when I said this was pretty useless, and not handling the problem the right way...

    You obviously think you're smarter with your opinions. Funny to hear from somebody so saint that at the end you wish me to need some organ transplant...
     
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  10. ItzaHexGor

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    I could have said the exact same thing to you, only I didn't, because it's completely irrelevant.

    The point was that you knew next to nothing about what the Famine actually did and how it worked. Your reasons for it being pretty useless and not handling the problem were simply wrong. It would be like me trying to argue against an engineer about the aerodynamics of a jet fighter, I may not be dumb, but I know nothing about it.

    Believe me, I'm not anything close to saint, but that's completely beside the point. You've completely avoided the issue. I can understand you not wanting to donate money because you might be strapped for cash, but I can't see any reason not to donate organ after you die. Maybe if there was some religious conflict or something, but on the grounds that it might go to a jerk? No. Due to the organ shortage, donating your organs helps everyone who needs a transplant, regardless of whether they get your specific organs or not. Say you die, and one of your family members needs a transplant over a year or so later. If you'd've donated, then your donations would help them too. Even if they're not the ones getting your organs.

    Also, I wouldn't think it's funny to hear me say that at all. You're saying that everyone who needs a transplant should suffer because you don't want to give your organs to a fat person or smoker, so I'd like to see you get a taste of what you'd be doing to all the other people who need donations out there.
     
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    Buried undersea just to be different >.<
     
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    I'd go for cremation and spreading of my ashes after donation. Why let my useless corpse take up useful land or my useless ashes take up useful shelf space? OFC I'll be deeeaaaad. So do what you like really; I won't know about. **** turns me into a puppet for a kids show.

    Some of you "tree people" may hate Dane Cook as much as I do
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wts-dntnyh4
     
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    Canada, eh?
    I don't think there is a Heaven or Hell, nor do I think there's any reincarnation.

    Just attracting flies. And being cold. And decaying.
     
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    naa i love dane cook!! his funni...but i hate him at the same time...cuz his funni!!!

    Naa Russel Peters ftw...he is the awesomeness.
     
  15. ItzaHexGor

    ItzaHexGor Active Member

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    Can hardly hear anything in that video. Far too much of an echo.
     
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    In my opinion when someone dies anyone nearby is allowed a piece of them!!

    So screw the family and their wishes. Everyone provided them with the food and shelter to live so we deserve the products of it...
     
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    Hmmm I was thinking using my corpse for weapons testing or as a crash test dummy. That'd help out society as well.
     
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    I want to be buried next to my family
     
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    reminds me of that german dude who advertised to be eaten...
     
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    Bernd Jürgen Brandes? In MY thread?!