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I can see spirits.

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Psionicz, Jan 17, 2009.

I can see spirits.

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Psionicz, Jan 17, 2009.

  1. Babmer

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    If by that you mean assessing the ONLY evidense there is for such things then coming to the logical conclusion that spirits dont damn exist, then that isnt close minded.

    is an athiest close minded because he doesnt believe in a god?

    No. He just has the basic logic to realise that it defies the laws of the universe and is most likely not the case.
     
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    Until I am shown undeniable proof, such as myself having a Paranormal Experience, I refuse to believe any sort of Spirit, or Deity exists in our world.
     
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    Exactly, most likely not the case. I'm an atheist however I'm open to the possibility of their being a God if I am shown evidence or something overwhelming. Like ghosts, there is this show on the Sci-Fi Channel called Ghost Hunters and they go around investigating reported hauntings or just paranormal activity with scientific things. They catch loads of things but they also dismiss over half of them as normal occurrences. The things they do catch are significant sometimes.

    So Psionicz, could you explain to us exactly how you developed your... abilities?
     
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    Could you refer me to a site/book/documentary/etc. which describes these laws? Last time I checked we didn't know all the laws of the universe, just some theories, hypothesis and some things that tend to really work
     
  5. Babmer

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    Such a belief breaks our currently known basis of reality. It doesnt matter if there are others.. its broken the ones which prove its not realistic already :p.

    You dont need me to point out which laws such a belief breaks do you? xD
     
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    Darktemplar_L, a ratings driven TV show's not proof, as far as you know, it could all be faked just to make for good TV.
     
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    So two plumbers who had already been investigating for years are faking it after Sci-Fi gives them a chance to air one of their investigations on TV as an experiment? Interesting... And hold on Meee, although there are no "laws", there are proven theories on things that religion says that are just... weird? Not trying to insult someone but what makes more sense, eating an apple and becoming sentient, or over millions of years, gain the ability to be able to know things. You decide.

    And Psionicz, you still haven't told us about the extent of your abilities.
     
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    I don't have to. The Genesis book is not meant to be taken literally
     
  9. Babmer

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    Yes it is.
     
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    I find that ironic that just because someone doesn't believe something you called them closed minded.

    Being open minded is not just accepting ideas that aren't normally believed but being aware of all possibles. Sure it's possible that spirits do exisit since there are an still an insurmountable amount of things we don't know about the universe and our existence but it is also possible that he is just lying or trying to get attention or some other motive.

    I would argue that you are even more closed minded than the person you accuse of being closed minded simply for not believing something.

    I could easily say I saw 2 dragons and a wizard the other day and call you closed minded for not believing me, which is the same thing you are doing in a sense.
     
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    no it was close minded, as he was immidietly assuming he was on drugs

    if you are open minded, you dont assume untill you know more
     
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    How do you know that?
     
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    Assuming the most likely answer from what you know isn't being close minded, it's making an hypothesis.
     
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    He could of very well been on drugs and it is a more believable idea.

    That doesn't necessarily mean he is closed minded unless he clearly states himself that there is no other possible situation.

    You may want to believe he is telling the truth about spirits and you may want to believe that they are real but what is far more likely? He is either telling the truth and is some special rare individual that can see these spirits so clearly or its a number of other possiblites in which he is not. Simiple mathematics and probability unfourantely favors that he is not telling the truth.

    Also to play devils advocate again here, it is human nature to assume the most likely possiblity, well in most cases anyway :p. For example when you go to eat at a resturant you assmue that the food is safe to eat because of many obivous reasons but also there is always the chance that is not safe to eat at all.

    So when somebody claims something that is not widely beleived and there is no aboustely no evidience to support him you assume he must be delsiounal or lying but not doesnt nesscarily mean he is closed minded on the subject, if you understand what im trying to say.
     
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    Just making note of this, not getting involved or anything, but there's no such thing as a proven theory. A theory is something that hasn't been proven beyond reasonable doubt. Once it has been proven beyond reasonable doubt, it becomes a law.
     
  16. Psionicz

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    OK. I do not smoke any substance. I do not watch TV. The only game I play is Starcraft. I'm a college student about to go on to uni. I have a normal family. Average friends. Never had any mental or health disorders. Easily popular. Able to get girls with ease. I am healthier than every single one of you. So, as you can see I have no reason to lie to my self to create another reality cuz my life sucks. That is far from the case.

    Now you all speak of proof. "I won't do it til it is proven". That mentality only serves to keep you in illusion of this society so you keep deluding yout self like slaves, or a better term sheeple. However, I'm not here to say I'm better than you, by all means continue devoting your life to a false god of money and scientific officials. Half the stuff they pull out their ass. You just agree with what they say cuz it sounds logical and they get payed a lot of money.

    Now, I will tell you what I see as it is. I won't dumb it down to your low level of awareness.

    Through meditation I have increased my level of awareness. Increasing my level of awareness allows this body and mind to vibrate at a higher frequency which allows me to connect to higher levels of consciousness. We all know that everything is essentially a particle that vibrates. What is inside these particles? Protons and neutrons. What makes up their nucleus? Something called Quarks, inside those is around 9.9999999 empty space. This is pure consciousness, the essence of awareness. So, as you can see what you think as physical and solid is no where near that. Your perception of that feeds into this hologram that you project outwards to experience. Just like a dream, except this is your waking moment.

    Now, SCIENTIFIC TESTS have shown that our thoughts alone can alter the geometic patterns in things like DNA or water crystals. This brings us into a new level of awareness where our thoughts really do count and have a huge effect on everything. If my thoughts can change my very DNA, imagine what this ignorance does? Humans are devolving and this is proof cuz you live it. Yea, we have big buildings and stuff. Yet somehow we are so advanced we have more disease than wild animals. We are so advanced we destroy each other on a daily basis because someone's opinion differs. Want proof for that? Look in this thread. See wut i did thar...

    Now, because I have increased my level of awareness it allows me to experience more of reality, to break this illusion. Spirits, subtle energy, dimensions, etc. Is all real. If it was not real, how on earth would someone think it up? You say imagination, yet I've tapped into the reality of where these imaginative thoughts come from. The fact is we are all connected to everything in existance at any moment, however our mind deludes us into thinking we are something less than infinite which throws a big shroud over the important part of reality.

    Quantum physics backs this up easily.

    Essentially we are just energy, now energy is a wave length of particles that vibrate at a certain pitch. High, low. The lower the vibration your being operates at, the less you experience due to the density, the particles are vibrating slower therefore they cannot perceieve that which is faster. Now a faster/higher vibration rate means your perception and awareness becomes less dense, more expanded and translucent. This expands your consciousness further than the mind. What the mind delivers is that which it receives from your expanded conscious. If our conscious is not expanded than you are an automatic sheep doing the same thing everyday which no concept at all of what Life could be.

    So again, now my awareness is increase. I vibrate faster than you, therefore I am able to experience higher realities such as other dimensions as opposed to this 3rd dimension. This higher dimensions operate at a faster vibrational rate so things are a bit smoother, thoughts can manifest quicker, there is less steps to achieve something in higher dimensions due to lack of density. So, I can percieve those who operate on higher densities and we call those spirits. The term spirit is simply a conscious arrangement of particles. Due to them vibrating much faster than us they have no limits due to their mind not controling them but them controling any aspect of the mind. Just like water can soak through an object and a brick can't.

    Now, the brain has many functions to raise the awareness that the mind holds. These glands are shut off due to our nature, our way of life. We constantly indulge in hate, fear, anger, negative stuff. The vibration these emotions operate at is much slower than one of love or joy. Which is why it feels so good when you feel love and joy. Our whole life is surrounded by fear, media emphasizes fear to keep us in a state of low vibration. A brick is easier to control than water. Now, we are water, however water can be directed when the water is not aware of it's self. Which is why this planet's occupants the Humans are so sleepy and dense.

    Here is the scientific evidence on how our thoughts can alter the geometric structure of crystals:
    http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1127027/message_from_the_water

    His name is Dr. Emoto.

    So realizing our society constantly beams negative thoughts that keep our level of conscious awareness surpressed I said **** that. Then suddenly I develop a heart disease which threatens my life. They thought they would give me a pacemaker at the age of 17. I said **** that. I began to meditate and eventually the heart disease somehow disappeared. They did SCIENTIFIC TESTS to diagnose me with a definite heart disease that had no cure (the tissue around my heart was damage and it was no recieving the electrical impulses all the time so it would beat really slow or seem not to beat sometimes. Very painful it almost ruined my college.)

    So now out of that negative, I shifted into a positive pole, with this new perceptive and a new awareness being granted, I decided to take it further. I improved my health, and began meditating more. I love all that asian philosophy and the chi stuff the masters would talk about. So I began listening to some masters and realized their thoughts matched the thoughts I'd always have. So I thought, let me test this. I began to do 'chi kung' practices which basically means dedicated energy work.

    This gave me a realization that this **** is actually real WTF?!?!

    So, experiencing it's realness it couldn't come at a perfect time. Just fixed the heart disease and it was now summer. I could focus and refine my mind to a new level. So, I still did not venture into the spiritual aspect. I kept it grounded with things I knew the ancients did i.e. chi kung. Now this energy cultivation and clarity of mind, has risen my awareness a bit. I was feeling weird things around me. As the awareness increased and I unlocked aspects of the human body and mind, I started to perceive what I was feeling. I'd sense defnite presences in my room. I lied to my self and said its just wind or something. But I noticed people on a similar path to me also experienced what I did and there was much consistancy, as opposed to hallucenations when everything is totally random with no grounding.

    With the realization that more to this life exists, it unlocked more of my mind. Less limitations for me. I was scared for a very long 2 weeks. These beings had noticed my new perception and decided to milk it with fear. They made me scared to have a strong emotional reaction which released energy for them to bathe in. Just like the ***** who loves to anger you just for that reaction. But of course, on higher levels you can do more so the effects are stronger.

    Blablabla i broke the fear and got strong. My awareness shot up again and I knew what was up. My intution and various other things developed and I realized these all have physical components. And I decided to heal my DNA and evolve. This boosted to awareness further and I'd began to perceieve thoughts the friendlier beings where giving me. I won't go into the rest its very long. I have lots of blogs on my experiences which I'll post at request.

    Half of this won't click for you guys. As you'd be happy to live in fantasy land where you think spirits and aliens do not interact with us, but let me tell you. It was hard to take in but they are around us more than you think. They play a huge role in our lives and people are beginning to realize this. Notice the increase in UFO's. The increase of reported out of body experiences.

    Everything you'd ever wish for is out there for you to touch. You just have to be willing.

    For example, any of my friends who doubts me, I take them to my house and show them this is real. I can communicate with the higher beings now and see them clearer each week. When the mind is not talking **** on auto mode, and quiet. One can be open to this stuff.

    I'd gladly open any of your minds one to one if you wished.

    Ask more questions, I can answer anything.
     
  17. Psionicz

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    I prove to my self this is real or not. I have practiced/tested the following:
    Telepathy - Passive and active (receiving and sending)
    Out of body experience
    Astral projection
    Energy projection
    Energetic Healing - Reiki
    Telekinesis
    Remote viewing
    The existence of subtle dimensions and visiting them
    Auric sight (seeing these subtle energies)
    Physical sustenance with energy
    Power of crystals
    DNA recoding
    Talking to spirits
    Testing if things like the planet, plants, animals are conscious.
    Experiencing extraterrestrial life
    That our perception of things alters the authenticity factor of our reality

    Might sound far out but I was in your boat a while ago, I chose to test this stuff and have proved to my self with experience that it is all real.

    Now I can go super theory and history to throw logic at your brain such as ancient cultures tablets and scribes with extraterrestrial beings, ancient cultures predating the bible telling a solid story of how we, the Earth Human came to be. The fact apes have 48 chromosomes and we have 46. The fact we have reduced strength from all apes yet we evolved from them. On a natural evolution scale that we think is correct, that cannot happen. As they were everywhere we could have possible been and they'd out compete us with sheer strength and numbers. The fact we have other 230 something unused DNA, which they call junk DNA. The fact we are the only animal to not correlate with the flow of things on the planet. The fact kids see all of this but they don't speak up cuz parents say it is crazy. Hence the increase of suicides cuz more people wake up to this and cannot handle the fact this entire society is based on slavery. The fact we try to get into the heavens (heaven and space). No other earthly animal is trying to escape but us. We are like the water that eventually goes back to the sea. Theres so much out there, all the info is filtered to us as ridicule and fantasy. In fact they tell us the truth straight up but put it in the form of cartoons and movies so when someone speaks some truth, sleepy people say its just a cartoon and a movie. Someone's imagination, you're crazy cuz you watch it too much. stuff like that.

    Although there are some perks to my progression, i.e. where I exist beyond this physical reality I choose to experience through incarnation to help push this shift in consciousness. Physically I am exactly the same as you. I have no more prerequisites than you do. Every single one of you can raise your awareness to experience the very stuff you all love. Aliens and energy and all that ****.

    Again, anyone who is willing to break the illusion, I'll gladly aid you as I love bringing down the heavens to earth. You want proof? Go get it like I and a few million more did.

    There's whole communities of people advancing their awareness now. In the past it would be a few would-be masters but due to conscious shifts, everyone is now shown how.
     
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    So that's where you've gone. The only reason I'm not calling BS is because I know you're a sensible person. I don't believe in such things for multiple reasons but since you've taken the effort of writing all that up I doubt you're just playing and there might be truth in it. Then again, there are poets and other authors who pull things out of their arses so... quandary time. But that video is messed up beyond description, sorry. The concept itself is already defective but when it got to music that was it. There's no such thing as good music, it's all relative - so even if this water could react to good and bad things, it should react to music in a neutral way.

    As long as you don't read my strat right after the split I'm fine with this.
     
  19. Psionicz

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    Kuvasz, you are correct in saying it is relative. However, those emotions vibrate at a lower frequency. One may enjoy fear, hate and anger cuz of preference and the fact their being is aligned to that level of vibration also. There is never any better or worse, those are simply our perceptions. However, I can say the majority on the planet wish for freedom, to do what they enjoy, to not be lied to, to continue evolving instead of lower vibrational behavior such as war which only sets us back as a species. Which does no good for the universe, as we are projecting this heavily negative energy out into existence which offsets the balance of things. Every thought is like a radio, we are broadcasting at every second. These thoughts accumulate together in a web of energy which represents our collective.
    We could continue living like this, destroying the planet. To eventually nuke our selves out of existence but nuking cannot be allowed as it can destroy the very planet. If this planet with all it's abundance and variety was to explode it would send a huge ripple of imbalance messing up other planets and civilizations. Many a time advanced civilizations have enter this mentality we are in and nuked them self to oblivion. Messing up their planet and having to migrate with only their low level consciousness to talk to.

    The whole polarity issue is another game tho, I simply wish to share where I've been. I have countless blogs on experiences so just request and I'll give you a link to what you wish for.

    Watch this beautiful video that may give you an idea of life:
    http://www.snotr.com/video/1974
     
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    A question.
    How important is silence to meditation?