If there are any Texans out there, one question

Lol America vs.Russia that'd spell the end of the world. The only thing left would be some cockroaches and a clown.

 

Technically it's treason, so we could bring it back in if we wanted. And honestly, if Texas seceded, there would be so many problems its insane. Texas couldn't go five years without US help if they just seceded right off the bat, there's too much logistical problems with it.

About Puerto Rico, I was kidding. I also suggest that we unify the Dakotas and annex Canada too. Except Quebec. Who the hell wants to learn French?

 

OFF TOPIC I KNOW!

Do you know how many riots have other bad stuff has happened way before fitna was published? Do you know the groups who attacked those innocent people? I am offended by that association with cnn (not capitalized because it is undeserving) I don't know where you live but I can tell you that I live closer to the real dangers brought by a supremacist doctrine and ideology. In fact, when videos and caricatures depicting Christian/Catholic symbols as comedic items. There is no outrage from them; no rioting, no death threats, no nothing. Take Obama's recent visit to a Catholic college for example, he purposely had his staff cover up all religious symbols and people still came to hear his "speech" without throwing fits. What if he were to do this in a mosque? Don't even get me started!

Do you know the foreigners he bashes? And again the struggle against the global jihad and Islamic supremacism is not a racial issue.

Also good job on learning those languages.

Now that is a gross misunderstanding on your part. I never mentioned Puerto Rico doesn't want to join the USA because they speak Spanish. I said a majority of people in Puerto Rico speak Spanish primarily and even though there are millions of people who already speak Spanish in the states, it is only a small demographic. I mentioned that legislation has failed; one point being that there is no provision to adopt English as the language for the local government. Please look up Canada's spending in Quebec for translation.

LOL! What are you trying to get at exactly overmind?

The U.S. Constitution does not explicitly prohibit secession. Both Texas and Missouri have in their Constitutions that both are free and independent states, subject only to the Constitution of the United States. It does not say to subject to the Congress or to the President.

If Texas seceded, the Union will be screwed as it will be a major loss. Who knows though? Texas might be able to stand all by it's lonesome self hence the "Lone Star" state but I pray that it does not go through.

 

Just wondering how far you think it should go to meet that goal...

I'd like to see Texas secede then join Mexico, quite a turnaround

 

Texas is home to many military installations. I heavily doubt the military would even follow through with the orders from the CiC. But if ever there is military action taken, it would spell the end of the United States and more importantly everything that our forefathers worked so hard to achieve. Not to mention that most Southern states will see it as a repeat of the Civil War. The USA will probably see another Balkans.

 

I did a huge research project in my senior year of high school for our mock legislature. I went through the entire process of having Florida secede from the Union.

It's absolutely and totally legal, and there's no military justification for intervening either.

As far as this Fitna movie, I think it should just be allowed to be shown. Why the UK has banned his travel and showing of his movie is beyond me. Only communist and muslim nations ban free speech.

 

As far as our news reported it, they refused to let him in for secuirity reasons. The ones who were in charge thought there would be riots and such because of him. However, I doubt that was the real reason. Soccer matches cause more riots in one week, then he ever caused in his whole carreer.

 

@Nikzad, the problem is not with him trying to bash terrorists, the problem is him trying to forbid moskeeën and the koran(Muslim version of churches and the bible)

Why is everone talking about military action? That would be very hypocritical of the US, supporting the seceding of russian states and taking military action vs Texas.

Also @ Nikzad, i am more worried about the people currently living in america then about the founding fathers

 

Well...we used military force before...
And honestly, how many Texans would STAY in Texas if it seceded? Again, too much investment on Texas' part in the US. This isn't the Civil War where it was a regional opinion of something, just the opinion of a few people in one state.

I don't think the US would completely break up if Texas seceded. Again, it's just a few people in one state, it's not like the Civil War where it was an entire region of the country that feels so isolated that they feel there is no choice but to secede. In all honesty, Texas has no real justification for seceded anyway. The Balkans and the Soviet Union broke up mostly into ethnic sections.

Again, I say that we let Texas go and annex Canada!

 

Why woud Canada want to join the US?

 

To learn to be tougher, meaner, and all around less nice.

 

First off it's a states right if they choose to secede from the US its their right. If the US tried to stop them the UN would probably have something to say about it. Also don't be so arrogant to put all of Texas and the south down because of one president. That's what most call irrational hate and its frowned upon in a lot of places. The death sentence is still in the majority of our states, about 34 states allow it. Also the south makes up a lot of our ports and manufacturing plants. It also makes up for a large portion of our nations resources and hard working Americans. Most of which by the way mind their own business and only voice their opinions in the voting booths. So please before you try to poke fun at the south just think about how ignorant your being and how your stereo typing isn't healthy for society. Texas isn't that bad of a state in fact I plan on moving there in July.

Also as for the other Southern states "Joining" Texas in their secession I highly doubt it. I've lived in the south for my entire life and I can tell you most Southerners are proud of being part of this country. We also understand that secession isn't something to just wave around lightly. Texas is just doing this because they are seeing a lot of of countries problems. On another note the idea that the US would use military force is very unlikely as it would be frowned upon by most other countries. That and the Texan police force(Along with most others in our nation.) Have something called swat. A state institution which happens to have skilled personel who know how to fight a war and even more so know how the US fights them. Remember that before you automaticly think that Texas would fall in a day to US military action. The state of Texas does in fact have their own militia and they can use it to defend them selfs. That being said I highly doubt that Texas with secede from our Union because of 18% even if that is true.

 

1) Dude...did you seriously just compare the SWAT team with the United States military?

2) We aren't poking fun at the South really. Mostly, the Dutch members here are poking fun at their guy.

3) Don't get all butt hurt. The South doesn't need YOU defending it.

4) What the hell is the UN going to do?

5) Pffft....like you never stereotype...

6) Who DOESN'T poke fun at the South? EVERYONE pokes fun at the South. OTHER COUNTRIES poke fun at the South. SOUTHERNERS poke fun at the South. The South's just "that place" that's poked fun at.

7) You don't need to get all serious on this thread. No one likes serious people on forums.

8) WESTSIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE!!!!

 

Lol many great things have come form the south, like the USA main supply of Turkey meat. I should know I'm from the south.

 

Jshep on top of Itsmyship's point about not taking threads like this to seriously (most peopel don't even think that Texas would seriously secede) he does make a good one about the U.N. The bulk of the UN's militry strength is tied up in the U.S. also any sort of economic sanctions would likely hurt the world economy more than the U.S. economy. In essecnce all the U.N. could do is issue a stern warning. As far as any military battle goes, the U.S. military would likely win but it would be very costly to both sides probably to the point that it would break the U.S.

In all honestly though any talk of secession is all flash and no substance because the pressure not to is just enormous, even if the idea had more than 50% support I would wager it still wouldn't happen because of the economic pressure alone.

 

Isn't that what it has been doing since it's creation? I say we should evict the U.N. from U.S. soil. PERIOD!

He just voiced his opinion. Seeing some comments on this thread, he said it rightly so!

Now back to topic!

I agree with what LK said. The threat of Texas secession is all for show, however it is a possible option for people. But what I think is that it should open up eyes as to see how much control the Federal Government is getting it's hands on.

Pretty much what I mean is...

Don't tread on me