Legal Murder

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Legal Murder

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Psionicz, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. ItzaHexGor

    ItzaHexGor Active Member

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    For the initial question, I agree with Zurgery. Murder will just spark revenge. Also, if someone's trying to kill you and you kill them, provided they weren't attacking you with a spoon and you blew their head off with a shotgun or something, it's self defence.
    @ darkone, I agree with LordKerwyn. Well, it's not really a choice of agreeing, it's the truth. It's illegal to do it. Being caught, trialled and punished are the consequences.
    The only type of legal murder would be an executioner killing a convicted criminal. If someone is sentenced to death, then it's hard for that sentence to be carried out if there is no such thing as legal murder. Thinking about it, it's not really murder though. Murder as we're talking about here, is an act of malice and an executioner just carries out orders. Literally, murder is just intentionally killing someone, so both a judge sentencing a criminal to death, if you're in a country with the death sentence, and an executioner carrying out his job could both be considered as murders. I don't really understand what the point of having the death sentence is, anyway. If you're punishing someone from doing something horrible, surely a life in prison would be more appropriate than just killing them. Not only does it give them time to realise the consequences of what they've done, which can't really happen with the death sentence, but it also gives plenty of time for a retrial in case some evidence is found showing that they were innocent. You can always release an innocent man from gaol, but you can't bring an innocent man back from the dead.
    Personally, if murder was legal, I wouldn't have killed anyone. Witnessing a murder would be horrifying enough, but actually carrying one out would be absolutely unbearable. I'm fairly surprised, and in a way scared, that people have actually been able to post a number. For all your sakes, I hope you're just messing around.
     
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    well, you are sent out there to do a mission, having yourself ambushed isnt part of the mission but its saving your skin by doing the one thing that prevents you from dying. say you were supposed to retrieve something and a group ambushes you, and etc...
     
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    I am completely serious. My entire family would be dead at least.

    Why do we kill people to show people that killing people is wrong? Seems hypocritical to me.

    Ok gtx75, what if you are ordered to take a specific person down? Assassination is what that would be called, but is that sill murder?
     
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    communist demonstration with terror? no, i think they are trying to eliminate the source of the killing, say have a killer on the loose killing children, a bunch of people kill him to stop the killing. or something that works like that, killing to stop more killing
     
  5. ItzaHexGor

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    Are you saying that you would have killed them? Or that they would have been killed by others?
     
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    I would have killed them myself. I hate my family.
     
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    whats going on? why do you hate your family

    ~other thoughts, how many hours you guys spend on this site, 12 hours a day?
     
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    Long story.

    A lot.
     
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    >.>
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    I'm sorry for you darkone.
    Personally if murder was legal, I wouldn't kill anyone unless I really had no choice
     
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    You have the most time on this site Meee.

    Don't be sorry for me.
     
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    Why not? Something must be really wrong if you hate them so much
     
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    Wouldn't it be far easier to just move away from home or similar? Murdering them is such an extreme, needless and unnecessary solution, if you can call it that. Hating someone isn't enough to murder them. If you don't like them, move away from them.
     
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    I haven't murdered them because it isn't legal. If it was then I would consider hating someone grounds for killing them.
     
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    Hating someone isn't a ground for killing them. It's needless, unnecessary and isn't a finite solution. Why wouldn't you just move away from them? Have you already?
     
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    Can we not talk about my family problems please?
     
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    Sorry, I'm just saying that even if murder was legal, and you hated someone so much that you felt like murdering them, it would be easier and a much more finite solution to move away from them. Even if murder was legal, there would be no reason for it. There are always things that can be done to solve a problem or get you out of a situation you're in. Murder isn't one of them.
     
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    Maybe if you believe in god or something, and believe that there is some kind of holy judgment after death. I however don't, so I don't much care, sorry to say.
     
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    Actually, murder would be the finite solution. If murder was legal (and as an atheist you wouldn't be bound by religion) it would be the easiest way to get rid of someone you hated
     
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    Indeed.
     
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    I'm a devout Atheist. You don't need to believe in a god or any kind of judgement day to reach that conclusion. This isn't just directed at you, but there are always things that can be done instead of just murdering someone. Moving out is one example, talking it out is another. Apart from defending yourself, there are never any situations in which you should or you'd have to kill someone.
    @ Meee. It would get rid of them, yes, but that wouldn't be the end of your problems. It's finite in the sense that they're not there any more, but it's definitely not finite in the sense of getting out of your problems. Also, it's not like religion binds you to not murder, nor does being Atheist make it alright to murder. There is always something else that can be done.
     
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