New Planet

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by karlo, Apr 23, 2009.

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Could there be life on the new planet?

  1. YES, YES YES!

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  2. No

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  3. Yes but they are friendly

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  4. Yes but they are hostile

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  5. yes but not intelligent life

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New Planet

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by karlo, Apr 23, 2009.

  1. karlo

    karlo New Member

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    For one thing, it is very possible life exists, but here are somethings i pulled up:

    1. we are seperated from other races and that is why we havent spotted any yet

    2. we evolved "earlier" then any other race, it is possible that we are one of the first or the first living things in the universe, and that other races are either not yet exsistant or are in early stages of evolution

    3. Bible wins, we are the only race in the universe


    the second was my own theory :)
     
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    Aurora The Defiant

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    You are right about that Overmind, we put that on a solid gold plate on the side of the voyager 1 sattelite iirc. It should be pretty far away by now. Also:
    That is nonsense. Molecules, build up by atoms, which are composed of neutrons, protons, surrounded by electrones. Oh, almost forgot about the up-quarks and down-quarks that neutrons and protons are made of. These are proven to excist. We can actually see that they excist under special microscopes. The only thing scientists are guessing about at the moment, is the Higgs particle.
     
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    EonMaster Eeveelution Master

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    Even if life does exist there, there is no proof that it would be the same form of life that we think of. Thier cells could be completely different with different parts inside them. The structure of thier bodies could be completely different, even if the planet they live in is similar to earth.

    Also, life on other planets may not need water or oxygen to survive. Water is just a chemical compound of hydrogen and oxygen while the oxygen we breath is 2 oxygen atoms, life elsewhere could rely on different chemical compounds to survive.

    For a possible example, Discovery Channel did a 90 minute video about what life could possibly look like on another planet:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je6FyPstCO0

    just remember, none of it is proven and its all a hypothesis.
     
  4. jasmine

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    Why would alien life want to communicate with us? Be careful to not project human psychology -- our desires are not their desires. It may in fact be in their nature to try and evade alien civilisations rather than deliberately send messages to them.
     
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    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    it may use breath another chemical yes, but tat must contain oxygen, since that is required to burn stuff and create energy, without oxygen, they'd have no energy

    People often overestimate the amount of variation aliens could have(at least, aliens with our level of development) for an example, their heads must be on top of their bodies, because otherwise they wouldnt be very stable(seeing as smarter means bigger brains, means heavier head) and would never have evolved succesfully

    of course i am not taking into account civalizations that were created by experiments of yet another race

    I watched that documentary last year
     
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    It can be.. Anything is possible, maybe we find life some day, but we won't recognize its intelligence, because it is much different from us.
    Also they can also think that we are not intelligent because the different life forms evolve different ways.. That is for sure.
    You can even see an example on earth. The dolphins have quite a lot of emotions, and many scientists think that they are intelligent. It took us long to discover that.

    How long would it take to discover on an other planet, on other lifeforms?
     
  7. Mong0!

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    As I said in another thread a while ago:
    universe is infinite, there must therefore be an infinite amount of stars with solarsystems, an infinite amount of solar systems wich are able to have intelligent life, and an infinite amount of planets who have life...

    thats my theory :p
     
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    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    Actually, did scientists ever conclude if the universe was infinite or not
     
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    If we're talking about intelligent alien life... What is intelligence?

    Trying to solve the Einstein equation wouldn't be very intelligent if you're drowning for instance. Intelligence relates to needs. Likewise, if a race is dying out because it's focussing it's efforts on the wrong things, then it's not a very intelligent race.

    What I mean here is that a race with a solid survival strategy is an intelligent race. If a race makes itself vulnerable and takes unnecessary risks, and doesn't manage itself effectively, then it's not so intelligent.

    From that perspective, I'd be skeptical to believe an intelligent alien race would choose to communicate with other alien races, because it would only make itself more vulnerable than it needs to. As long as it has no desperate greater need, like if it is dying and needs help from the alien race, only then it might be a worthwhile thing to do.

    You'd have no idea if the unknown alien race you were saying "hello" to was surviving with an offensive strategy. They might operate a policy of eliminating potential future threats, so might come and obliterate you with their superior weapons.

    It wouldn't be intelligent to send out that message to an unknown realm.
     
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