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OMG Time Theory?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by EatMeReturns, Aug 10, 2008.

OMG Time Theory?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by EatMeReturns, Aug 10, 2008.

  1. Darktemplar_L

    Darktemplar_L New Member

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    No... I'm suggesting that we might not have free will. Please don't link this to God...A plan for everyone... ugh...
    Well, EatMeReturns, that's just the thing. Maybe you were the one who killed JFK because you thought this guy named Lee Oswald (or was is Oswald Lee?) killed JFK, when in reality, you just framed him. That means there has to be an infinite number of you timelines. It's like saying if a turtle holds up the earth, what holds that turtle up, another turtle of course and what holds that one up...etc.
     
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    The point being, your theory is exactly the same as my take on it, just in the "negative" form.

    As for religion, by all means, use it to prove a point, but only if you can prove your use of religion.

    Like, I can state facts such as X% of americans are christian, but I can't say there is a god.

    That's for another thread sometime in the near future.
     
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    Uhhh lets stay on topic please! Well, I guess it is your theory in the negative form. I have a question...What if instead of going back in time, we reverse time instead. Instead of there being two you's, one of which went back using a time machine, just reverse time. Would it be possible?
     
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    Time Reversal... that's a good one.

    It depends on the area of effect that you want time to be reversed. If I walk out of my room, then walk back in backwards pretty much in the exact same way I walked in, that would be a reversal of time limited to exiting my room. In order to perform a true time reversal, you would have to "give" energy to anything that used energy, AND reverse the effects of the spent energy. So basically, you would have to spend 2x as much energy as was spent for everything in the entire universe, which is impossible, since that would be twice as much energy as there is in the entire universe.

    TLTR: Impossible, unless you can devise a way to give something energy in exact amounts, and if you are only counting a very limited part of the universe.
     
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    Then, technically it is possible! But limited to half the universe's energy because anything more requires more energy than there is in the universe. Then, you could simply just reverse only the Earth's time because everything else is pretty much irrelevant. Yet, if we were able to reverse time what would happen to our memories?
     
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    It is still not exactly truly possible, because the forces giving energy to the things that spent energy would have not reversed their own effects... the only possible way would be if no energy was spent, or if two interchangeable forces exchanged energy.

    As for memory, the process within the brain would have to be reversed by one of the aforementioned forces, since "remembering" uses energy, no matter how small it is.


    I would like to note that an epiphany I had just now has shown me a minor flaw: Time is not a human perception, humans are simply the first to define it. Time is a perception of life, whereas plants and animals base actions off of time, or their surroundings which are related to the human definition of time.

    Also, is the human definition of time true or false (as stated by society [as stated by dictionaries])?
     
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    I never thought of time as a dimension anyways, I do think that it is just human perception though. But what if we go faster than the speed of light and circle the globe an come back before we left? Could that be possible?
     
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    The only thing we would be beating would be our own light reflection reaching the pupils of any observer.

    Also, to beat the light, you would have to be traveling the speed of light * (distance around Earth / distance from starting position to observer's pupil)


    Furthermore, I like to think of the human perception of time as an ocean: Waves rise and fall, obscuring events that can be confusing, but some paths are exposed through limited social logic. (Stolen from Dune. READ IT.)