Osama Bin Laden is dead.

Didn't that happen last wednesday?

Osama is dead.

"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that." Martin Luther King, Jr

 

Not even.

That's not how world economy works, the US wouldn't hand over a freaking state, China would be in no position to occupy/maintain. Why would China invade Taiwan to get back at the US? Pakistan and Israel on the same side? Deutchsaeurope? lolwat, the EU isn't America's best friend but NATO is kinda EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.

NK doesn't have NEAR the power to defeat SK+US. Uprisings in Africa would have extremely low impact on a global scale. Not to seem arrogant, but there is no way anyone below the Sahara could give any NATO nation problems on their own, and once you call in all NATO, pffsh.

SA wouldn't do anything on a global scale, they tend to keep all problems internal.

Honestly, there's no global 'enemy' going on right now that can compete with NATO. I mean, look at Libya, a fairly 1st world country, getting pounded by an extremely small NATO coalition force.

Unless some huge event happens, there won't be another Dual dominance superpower blowout for dozens of years. Only events I can think of are energy related (eg unlimited source) or extraterrestrials.

 

I think mf was trying to be silly

The reason nuclear weapons would be used, is that in a war, countries generally lose. A country does not want to lose. Thus, a country aims its nuclear weapons at an enemy city. The country says: Hey, if you attack us, the last thing we will do is bomb the heart of your economy into oblivion.

Also, the reason they dumped his body is rather obvious: How exactly are you planning to hold a funeral for Bin Laden? Are you gonna give him a full state funded funeral, like you do with war heroes? Are you gonna catapult him towards the grand canyon? Are you gonna freeze him like you do with murder victims?
Or they just didn't want to carry Osama all the way home.

 

I am against the way U.S. conducted the assassination of Osama. With some discretion to my ignorance of how exactly the storming of the complex unfolded the current version of Osamas death has him killed unarmed and his wifes version even has Osama held for several minutes alive before executed.
Yes Osama has to be hunted down, I get that, but please don't do this **** once you get him... It just makes you look like the fascist, CIA lead, rule-of-law loathing empire that all the conspiracy nutters are making you up to be.

EDIT: (which is already sort of true but at least theyre not insane enough to blow up their own buildings)

 

Actually as a non-U.S. citizen and a non-combatant he's not covered by the Geneva convention and they can execute him any way they want.

And of course his wife is going to say they held him alive. They probably did. In a military situation they might not have been able to keep him from "resisting."

But still we shouldn't roll in the glory of his death. It's still a death.

 

Wrong. I think I should make it clear that I, in all seriousness, have made world domination my goal.

btw did anyone see obama at the twin towers? damn my school is close to it but they wouldnt interrupt class time to mobilizzzze everyone >.>

 

Jon: International law can suck it we are talking about what our society deems appropriate and moral. I am not sure that if the way they disposed of him (if they really did several minutes after they secured him) was appropriate. Although let's be honest: Osama is one of the last people I was going to mourn.

Oh and by the way please don't spread the quote as Luthers quote - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH_on2lfJDE&feature=feedu
While I can sympathise (although not identify) with the message its a bit of a hoax.

 

Ugh, annoying when people spread fake quotes.

 

Eat me, I wikied it and didn't see anything wrong. That's about the amount of effort I'm willing to give. LOL. Still a decent quote and gets the point across.

 

I meant Pakistan and Israel at war sorry if it was a bit confusing. Yes I was being silly to a degree; the state selling thing is a long running joke of what would China do if the US currency collapses since it holds a few trillion of it. Invasion of Taiwan to stop the unrest of a middle class which hasn't progressed by uniting them against a common enemy.

If you look at Iraq and Afghanistan any united group of nations in that region would easily be able to stop NATO from destroying them and then ending the war.

My main point was with technology and globalisation it wouldn't be two giant powers slogging it out rather a decline regionally where governments lose their grip and nationalistic nutters rise to take their place. Economic decline is the only thing which could cause this ultimately.

Uprisings in Africa and South America would cripple industry since by then more stable countries would be uneconomical to mine in due to decreasing mineral resources. NK has the ability to wipe Seoul out if their military was insane enough.

On a more relevant note I don't see how the Americans could've handled Osamas being taken alive. Where do they try him? How do they handle the growing unrest in the lead up to his killing? What they did was morally wrong but a court doesn't stop execution from being immoral. Holding him in jail obviously out of the question for the US.

 

I'm a Canadian. My country sent troops to Afghanistan as a result of 9/11 (they're still there), but we didn't get fooled into sending troops into Iraq.

I'm glad they got him. I don't really care if he'd been captured alive, or (as it turns out) got shot in the head, so long as he's not in a position to harm anyone anymore.

Will this stop terrorism? Absolutely not. While bin Laden appears to have still been active until his death, al Qaeda's branch movement in various parts of the world (especially the Arabian Peninsula) are quite deadly without his help. His passing just brings closure. Now, along with the Arab Spring and failures of just about every aspect of American policy in the Middle East (military and non-, Bush and Obama, etc) this can at least give the elites on both sides excuses to reduce their footprint in the Middle East.

But of course it won't happen. The Palestinian governments (both of them!) all but declared war on Israel. Again. Oh, and I heard oil and precious metals were found in Israel and Afghanistan, respectively. *Sigh*

 

Thank you, Kimera. That was exactly the kind of response I was looking for in the first place. Do most canadians think about the same way?

 

Glad to hear that he is dead. Hopefully someone else doesn't take his place and then think it is a good idea to retaliate against america.