Racist Cartoon in NY Post

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Racist Cartoon in NY Post

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by TiNK[E], Feb 20, 2009.

  1. overmind

    overmind Active Member

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    Not racist, just a parody of recent events that people overreacted to.

    And Neon raises a good point.
     
  2. Light

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    There are no double standards here. Bush gets called a monkey because he is an idiot, while Obama gets called the same because of his skin colour.
     
  3. overmind

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    Prove it.

    Seriously the cartoonist should be given the benefit of the doubt and not be punished because a few people scream racism at the drop of a hat.
     
  4. TiNK[E]

    TiNK[E] New Member

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    thank you.

    its the simple fact that monkey is used as a racist model in racial slurrs, that makes the use of the monkey racist. He could have used any other timid minded mammal and chose not to.
     
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    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    lets see, what other animal do we concider as nonsensical....
     
  6. Lobsterlegs

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    Who the f*** cares?
     
  7. ijffdrie

    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    *raises hand*
     
  8. Light

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    Yeah, racism, who cares??

    Idiot.
     
  9. bralbers

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    We are all entitled to how we feel, we may feel strong about one idea or another, it's what makes us human. As humans we are allowed to change our mind when ever we want. It is nice to share ideas once in awhile but it's not okay to through a fit if some one has different ideas. If you don't like someones ideas ignore them if they aren't life threatening and move on. If someone changes their mind then be happy they changed their mind. People have a problem with letting things too easily get to them, heck even I'm guilty of it, it's what makes us human.
     
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    Personally when I first looked at the cartoon just now it didn't strike me a racist. Once pointed out though I can see the potential racism inherent in it. It can only be racist if people consider calling an african american person a monkey racist, obviously the people calling foul believe that, as for the author I am not sure.

    I can say this though, the fact that the cartoon was created doesn't mean there is still racism in the U.S. it's the fact that people instantly jumped to the accusation of racism that shows there is still a racial divide. Racism dies when people interpret calling a white person a monkey the same as calling an african american person a monkey.

    P.S. Light you are right now you are being a part of the problem instead of the solution so get off of your high horse.
     
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    I believe its purely an overeaction and people who believe that a drawing requires boycotts and protests are part of the problem behind racism. If everyone reacts harshly to pointless things both parties are just going to get angrier and racists will see that anything they do will advertise their racist views!

    How does the drawing harm anyone mature enough to see it is just one man attempting to give across multiple ideas in the most concise and "clever" way possible? (Monkey which ran amok, stimulus bill being flawed, US culture linking monkey to Obama's perceived racial heritage)

    The newspaper has stated it does not consider the drawing to be racist. Squashing anything which even hints at racism is just making the problem worse. People don't like their views being repressed and will just try harder. Its akin to the nazi's squashing all anti facist literature and culture.

    Racism will stop being a problem when all sides revert from their extreme overreactions...
     
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    This has always been present in newspaper opinion comics. What strikes me is that only a few of you are only aware of it now because of the MSM and the apparent playing of the "race" card. It's sad to say how many times I have seen Bush portrayed as a monkey or morphed into Hitler and there was little to no outrage.

    In my honest opinion, I believe Al Sharpton is the real racist and that he is a blatant idiot, playing on the fears and drivels of the past. If you don't believe me, take a look at these comics:

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    Apparently, Condoleeza Rice (being the first African American woman to hold the high position of Secretary of State) is not "black" enough and that the items above were not so bad. *sigh* Liberalism and it's political correctness...
     
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    Oh so then you don't think that people (Read: Republicans) think he's an idiot then?
    It just HAS to have something to do with skin color?

    The problem here is not that something is racist or not, the problem here is that race is still an issue for most people, and that some of them are willing to overreact to any ambiguous situation.
     
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    Just my two cents but maybe if we weren't so sensitive of race things would get better. Heck for 6 1/2 years I put up with people call me a beaner or a wetback because I'm mostly Mexican, I've grown to not let it bother me and I've come to noticed that as I've come to not let it bother me, I've been called it less and less.
     
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    This is exactly why Al Sharpton is continuing to incite every little incident regarding color. He knows full well that color is becoming less and less of an issue. But wait! If it means it's becoming less important, this means he loses his outlet for financial bullying and racial extortion!

    Al Sharpton... I wonder what the great MLK would have to say to you.
     
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    Hmmm... I agree this is a bit racist, but I don't agree that the person who wrote it should be fired. He made a mistake and he will already suffer the consequences, which are the protesters and all those who criticized him. Unfortunately for him, he either will get fired or quit before they fire him. The people may force him to quit just because of that one cartoon.

    Now personally, I don't think so many people should get worked up over one butchered cartoon. I mean, it's meant to be a cartoon and they said it wasn't meant to be racist. Even if he does get fired, what exactly do the protesters gain?

    And I agree with Neon. Many things in life are only racist if you make them into something racist. You can laugh at Bush and it would be a joke. You can laugh at Obama and it means you're racist.
     
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    Even if it was a picture of Obama eating a watermelon, and enjoying it quite thoroughly?

    It would only be racist if someone, all alone, considered it racist?

    And what if you were to laugh at a caricature/comic of Obama, but say... commenting or taking something he said the wrong way in a light humour?

    That would be racist?

    Oh god I'm posting in Lounge.
     
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    Something is only racist if the creator intended it to be, no matter how many people think this, the author persists and there is nothing confirming that that is the intended effect, an official apology to those offended sure, but he should not lose his job over an illustration taken the wrong way.
     
  19. Hayden351

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    Then wouldn't a religon that says the oppisit of another religon would be racist.
    Then if someone tries proving his theroy that proves another religon wrong no matter ho strong would be a racist.
    teaching someone about a religion would be racist in a sense.
     
  20. ijffdrie

    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    dude



    no, racism is about race not religion