Re: 9/11 conspiracy

The main thing that that firefighter's report is saying is that there was a delay between the impact of the plane and the elevators 'exploding' on the first floor, right? There are numerous quotes like :

"We're standing there in the lobby....all of a sudden we hear (explosion noise) and the elevators exploded like something out of a Bruce Willis Die Hard movie," said Schroeder.

"We said something's wrong here - I mean the plane hit up on the 80th floor - 5 minutes later and the elevators are suddenly exploding on the first level - why?" asked Schroeder.

"It looked like a bomb went off in the lobby," said Schroeder.

Etc, etc. This can easily be explained. The plane crashed on the 80th floor, right? That does not mean that the whole building is going to crash and burn at once. Obviously the initial impact would be the greatest, but after that, more supports will gradually fail. This could mean that floors slowly start to crumple, and collapse. I know that if I was in that situation in the Tower, I'm sure that I could easily mistake loud impact noises for explosions. Anyway, back to the issue of the delayed lifts, it's basically the same issue. It would take a bit of time before the fires and failing of the supports would spread, and after a while it would get to the elevator, wouldn't it? Either part of the building collapsed into the elevator shaft, detaching the cabin, resulting in it falling to the bottom and crash. Or, the fires could have spread to the elevators, doing the same thing. Then, the elevators would have had a delayed fall down the shaft to the first floor, where it would crash. It an elevator crashed after free falling however many meters it was, I'm sure that almost everyone would describe it as an explosion.

On the topic of the investigation, you can hardly relate this disaster to Pearl Harbor or JFK. Of course investigations would start immediately after those, because with those events they didn't need to ensure that the economy didn't collapse, or try and rescue/find however many survivors/corpses, clear debris, etc. One year is late, but there was so much that they had to do afterwards.

With the Pentagon, all the security tapes would be classified. It would not be open to the public. With the Twin Towers, it was different because a few people noticed the low flying planes and were able to catch it on their mobile phones or cameras.

With the German businesses, even if the businesses were linked with Hitler and the Nazis, it does not mean that America funded the Nazis. The companies funding may have been taken by force, when Hitler needed more money, it may have been that it was a type of 'double-agent' type company, so that the Americans didn't know they were funding Nazis but unknowingly were, it could have been almost anything. But it is so stupid to think that America funded Hitler knowingly and directly.

There is simply not enough evidence to prove that Bush set up the September 11 attacks, and on top of that there is overwhelming evidence that Al-Queda did it, what with the confessions, and what-not. Just because some things may have taken a bit longer, like the report, or that some things are still uncertain, does not mean that Bush did it. Some conspiracy theorists may twist the facts to make it appear that Bush did it, but there simply is not enough evidence. And if there was, Bush would have been arrested by now.

 

why would the pentagon video be classified?

 

All security videos are classified, especially the ones that are video taping the most important building involved in America's defense.

 

yeah but i mean, it would calm down one fifth of america a little bit

 

Look, lichking, if it is so obvious that is was an inside job and that Bush set it up, then go and prove to the Highest Court in America, or the United Nations that Bush is clearly guilty of murder on just under 3000 counts. I guarantee that no-one there will listen to you.

 

we do not know wo did it, we only know that there are some strange things about 9/11, maybe it was bush, probably it was al'quida, but just concider all the evidence

 

I'm talking about the October 29, 2004 tape of Osama released on Al Jazeera where he confesses to the 9/11 attacks. That is real. And that is undeniable.

 

yeah, if i was an enemy of america i would have said i did it too

 

Do you actually have the courage to say so?