So they had this awesome database

The Destiny was build when the Ancients started building Stargates, from what I've come to understand. Maybe the tech they had back then wasn't as good? Uugh, I need to watch it sometime soon.

You know what I find strange? They now have the wormhole drive for Atlantis. Why not just insta-travel to the Destiny?

*falls into huge plot fail hole*

 

well, the wormhole drive has a chance of making stuff explode, so bad idea.

But i havent seen anything to suggest this tech is worse, they still go FTL. And they had already seeded the milkyway with stargates when it was built, it did seed Pegasus though

 

And it stopped working because of the whole ascension thing. That kinda sucks.

Anyway: any ideas for a new/old bad guy/group?

 

what ascension thing? it still works.

well, there could be civil war with the people on board, the military vs Rush

 

Haha, I meant that it stopped seeding galaxies and all that. And it didn't report to Atlantis and such anymore. If it had done that, then we would've had a much smoother transition between the two series...

As for the baddies: how about some evil, erm, things that come through the gate aboard the Destiny? It has a gate, right?

As the ship is supposed to be huge, there could be some sort of long lasting battle/war aboard the ship. How about that?

 

>.>
stargate watchers....

 

And what is your problem with us 1n5an1ty? I am sure we would all love to hear this...

 

Yea srsly.

 

the destiny never seeded galaxies, it follows the ships that do.

but besides a small life support problem

and some holes in the ship


the destiny is still working properly

 

*starts reading the wiki again, like, all day*

And Insanity, what's up with you always bashing everybody here?

 

Yea, not to mention the asguard data base of cool shiz they have...

I feel ya..

The asguards gave it to them on a silver plater..

Id be more interested in the asguards information as thier shield and beam weapons are more up to date compared to the ancients stuff..
right?

 

Well, Drones and the Atlantis shield are better then Asgard tech. The problem is that Drones and the Atlantis shield don't regenerate. Asgard beam weapons and shields do.

Oh fuuu...
They didn't even explain why nobody cared to look up more drones. I mean, they even found the Drone test facility in the Harmony episode. It's so lame that they never found out how to make more. They were obviously biological weapons. They could basically just grow them.

Seriously. It's just lame if you think about it. They had a human replicator creator thingy lying around. Why no Drone creator thingy in the Drone storage? >_<

 

Atlantis shields don't regen?

 

I always got the impress that the asguard shields were stronger.
And weapons.

Especially the beams.

I mean the asguard were upgrading and improving for what at least a few thousand years more than the ancients..


Omgzor a ancient asguard hybrid ship would be uber.

Drones and beam. Tasty.

 

Asgard shields aren't stronger. They are less advanced then Lantian shields. Most Asgard tech is reverse-engineered from their Lantien knowledge repository. Their Ion Neutrino Generators work with buffers, as do their shields. Given that the Belkisner class Asgard ships have 4 generators and need to recharge, they are inferior to the endless lasting Lantien shields. (when powered by a zpm) It should also be noted that Atlantis has different shields in some way then Aurora class vessels. (for example, you see the shield all the time, instead of only when it's being hit by stuff)

As for the beam weapons: a single Drone has proven to be ablo to take out a Wraith Cruiser. A single Drone. Each ship has tens of thousands of Drones.. Further, Drones only require a powered Control Chair. Asgard weapons require like, 2 ING's and a lot of buffer space.

No. There are 10 shield emitters. Those get powered non-stop by a zpm. They fail when the zpm is depleted, and won't work untill a (partially) full zpm is inserted again. There is no buffer as in Asgard/earth tech.

 

Thats not true, in the episode called The Lost Tribe they had to collapse the shield around the stargate when it exploded, some or all of the emitters went offline at some point. And they weren't able to contain the explosion 100%.

And it wasn't because the ZPM became depleted its because of the stength of the explosion.

And I never understood that if Drones were so powerfull why they always needed a **** load of them to take out hive ships.

Also, if what the asguard had and knew came from the ancients how come the ancients never used transporters, and how come the ancients didn't think about beaming explosive devices onto enemy ships or cloaking ships for scouting and attacks..

 

Ehm, they did cloack. Puddle Jumpers. Duh.

As for using a huge amount of Drones at once: speed. The crew on Atlantis never had the Lantian ships properly repaired. The shield emitters were all half-broken and whatnot. They needed those Hives taken out asap. There's no source that claims that the Lantians launched that many Drones at once. Their ships clearly wern't meant to do that, as a single salvo of that magnitude kinda broke the Orion.

Now the city shield thing. I never said that the shield has infinite strength. It has an infinite operating time as long as it has power. Never said anything about how much it could take. Further, the shield wasn't even at full strength in that episode. The shield is designed to extend over the whole city. Colapsing it reduces the surface size of the shield dramatically. I mean, it went from a a couple square miles and several hundred feet hight, all the way down to the size of the average bathroom. That's quite a lot of strain. Lastly, it also wasn't meant to work this way. It's a shield, not a container.

So in short: the explosion in The Lost Tribe is a bad example.

Now onto the "why no nukes" part. Simple. That's earth/Gua'uld tech. The Alterans had no need for such weapons. They used all their Naquidah for the construction of Stargates. Even more important: they were extremely arrogant. People always seem forget about that somehow. They had their Rings, shields and all the time they wanted to deal with problems. No need to beam stuff around.

It should also be noted that the Asgard invented the whole beaming thing, not the Alterans. And before you say they didn't: the Ori also used Rings. That proves that beaming tech was invented AFTER the Lanteans left the Milky Way again.

 

Thats really my point, if the asguard created the beaming technology at a later point they surely improved on other technologies the ancients had.


If the ancients knew how to cloak jumpers they could cloak other things. OH LIKE THE CITY AND WARSHIPS.

Wait, they didn't, what?

And I don't buy that arrogence stuff, if your smart enough to make ZPM's and a flying city your smart enough to beam explosive like devices onto things (doesn't have to be a nuke, probably more to the power of a ZPM overloading, far more power than a nuke)

Course everything anyone says about what shoulda been means nothing, because if they did this the story line and plots wouldnt be as good.

I like the asguard beams over drones, but both are good.

 

You clearly haven't watched all episodes then. In the episode where they find the Wraith cloning facility, Todd explains that the Lantians thought that their warships were almost impossible to destroy. Instead of sending their whole fleet, they send single ships all over Pegasus to deal with the Wrath. If that isn't pure arrogance, then I don't know what is.

Further, they thought that they were so awesome, that the Lantians tried diplomacy in the end! I mean, they thought that they were so powerfull that scaring the Wraith into surrendering was possible. Lol. I love how the scriptwriters made them so arrogant. It fits them.

By the way, the Asgard are AT LEAST as arrogant as the Lantians were. Haha. Just look at Hermiod. He knew that beaming nukes was a good idea, but didn't want to use his transporter as a weapon. That's how arrogant they were. The Asgards even refused to invent new weapons to battle the Replicators, untill O'Neill made one out of thin air. Lol

 

Yeah, typed it for teh lolz. 'Cause it was so obvious already.