1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

So they had this awesome database

Discussion in 'Space Junk' started by Aurora, Oct 11, 2009.

So they had this awesome database

Discussion in 'Space Junk' started by Aurora, Oct 11, 2009.

  1. Ste

    Ste New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2008
    Messages:
    585
    Likes received:
    1
    Trophy points:
    0
    From:
    Chicago
    Its still a bad excuse. Always was.
     
  2. Aurora

    Aurora The Defiant

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2007
    Messages:
    3,732
    Likes received:
    15
    Trophy points:
    38
    From:
    The Netherlands
    Because...?

    Because people with more advanced tech never underestimate the advantages of people with less advanced tech? Haha. I find it an excellent excuse.

    *cough...vietnam...cough*
     
  3. Ste

    Ste New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2008
    Messages:
    585
    Likes received:
    1
    Trophy points:
    0
    From:
    Chicago
    Because they used it for everything.

    Why the gu old didn't try to kill them sooner.
    Why the replicators didn't try to kill them soon as they were seen.
    Why the asguard didn't know or try this
    why the ancients didn't know or try this
    Why this race became extinct
    why this race blew themselves up..

    come to think of it they used the arrogence card for alot of crap, way over used..
     
  4. Aurora

    Aurora The Defiant

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2007
    Messages:
    3,732
    Likes received:
    15
    Trophy points:
    38
    From:
    The Netherlands
    Uhm, no.

    Replicators don't care for time. They are machines with a collective mind, and never "die" because of old age. They were stuck on a planet with an Asgard time dialation device for ages, but it's not like they cared.

    And the Asgard didn't go extinct because of old age. The genetic manipulation they used to clone themselves and transfer their minds caused that. They were unable to reproduce. It had nothing to do with their ego, and neither did the Replicators cause it.

    As for the Lantians doing nothing about the Replicators: duh, simple. The Replicator base code prevented them from ever harming anybody with the ATA-gene. Further, the Lantians thought (in their arrogance) that they could easily wipe out the Replicators in Pegasus. This was an epic fail, since they clearly survived. The Lantians did nothing because they simply were unaware that Asuras was recovering again.

    And the Replicators in the Milky Way came from the Asgard home galaxy. That happened after the Lantians had all either ascended or died.

    So blah. It's not all arrogance. ;p
     
  5. Ste

    Ste New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2008
    Messages:
    585
    Likes received:
    1
    Trophy points:
    0
    From:
    Chicago
    Not caring about certain things in many ways is arrogence.

    I didn't say they asguard went extinct because of arrogence, I said they were arrogent in other ways though, others races did and in many episodes plots mentioned and referenced arrogence as primary causes.

    And even IF you swear up and down some of the codding of the replicators isn't grounded in overconfidence or arrogence, it is still over used.

    And I maintain its still a bad use.

    To me races as intelligent, knowledgable and with long histories such as the ancient and asguard, having arrogence as the primary cause of thier down falls and failures is lazy reason, they could have done better with all their writters.

    Sorry it just is to me.
     
  6. Aurora

    Aurora The Defiant

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2007
    Messages:
    3,732
    Likes received:
    15
    Trophy points:
    38
    From:
    The Netherlands
    It's just a bit of realism to let them be arrogant, dude. Seriously. Look around and tell me that humanity in real life isn't failing because of arrogance.

    And all you say is that arrogance is used a lot, while completely ignoring other parts of the plot. That's not even discussing anything. :/

    For example: the Ori vs Lantian thing. They had the Ark of Truth thing, but chose to not use it for ethical reasons. No arrogance there. Or the Wraith, that wasn't just arrogance in the end. The Wraith were simply making ships in far greater numbers.

    So stop saying that arrogance is used to explain everything. It's just part of the character's behaviour.
     
  7. Ste

    Ste New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2008
    Messages:
    585
    Likes received:
    1
    Trophy points:
    0
    From:
    Chicago
    I said it was over used, not used to explain everything. :p

    And don't get me started on "other" parts of the plot..

    Thend wed be here forever.
     
  8. ijffdrie

    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2007
    Messages:
    5,725
    Likes received:
    17
    Trophy points:
    38
    I really wish they established a timeline on the alliance of four great races.

    either the alliance had asgard in them who are more primitive then humans now, or it lasted just a couple of years until all the ancients ascended.
     
  9. Aurora

    Aurora The Defiant

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2007
    Messages:
    3,732
    Likes received:
    15
    Trophy points:
    38
    From:
    The Netherlands
    They had a whole temple thing going on this planet they met on. I doubt that it was just a couple of years. :p
     
  10. Ste

    Ste New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2008
    Messages:
    585
    Likes received:
    1
    Trophy points:
    0
    From:
    Chicago
    Im guess it was at least a thousand years but probably no more than a million.

    Just a guess.

    But yes.

    More episodes about and involving the nox and the 4th race would have been interesting.
     
  11. Aurora

    Aurora The Defiant

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2007
    Messages:
    3,732
    Likes received:
    15
    Trophy points:
    38
    From:
    The Netherlands
    There are no episodes about the Furlings. So yeah, "more" as in "at least one" would be sweet.

    But a million years isn't even possible. I remember that Thor once say that "x-amount of years of evolution will be lost" when the Asgard went extinct. I'm absolutely sure that it wasn't in the millions. So how can they be in a confederation of extremely advanced races for almost a million years, without even existing for that long?
     
  12. ijffdrie

    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2007
    Messages:
    5,725
    Likes received:
    17
    Trophy points:
    38
    thats my point, asgard didnt develop hyperdrive until ancients were all in pegasus, so if the races were equals then it wouldnt have existed until after the ancients returned from Pegasus, at which point nearly all ancients were dead and all others ascended shortly after.

    there was an episode about the furlings though, it didnt actually show a furling but it was about a planet the furlings made for humans to serve as heaven
     
  13. Aurora

    Aurora The Defiant

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2007
    Messages:
    3,732
    Likes received:
    15
    Trophy points:
    38
    From:
    The Netherlands
    The one with the weather control thingy? (stepping stone or whatever it was called)

    I liked the sanctuary made by the Lantians better anyway. Time dialation divices kick ***. ^^

    Or even better: the planet in Pegasus with an ascended Lantian protecting it. Awesomeness.
    McKay: "Meh, they obviously have some kind of super high tech energy weapon there!" Sheppard: "Naw, it was just a hawt chick with god-like powers."
    Wraith: "Well there's your problem."
    Sheppard: "Yeah, and I did her."
    McKay: o_O
    Sheppard: "ow snap"

    lmao
     
  14. ijffdrie

    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2007
    Messages:
    5,725
    Likes received:
    17
    Trophy points:
    38
    no, it was in season 6 IIRC, "utopia"
     
  15. Ste

    Ste New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2008
    Messages:
    585
    Likes received:
    1
    Trophy points:
    0
    From:
    Chicago
    [​IMG]

    Youd think theyd be talking about cooler shiz and be building it what with the atlantis database and the asguard database.

    meh..
     
  16. ijffdrie

    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2007
    Messages:
    5,725
    Likes received:
    17
    Trophy points:
    38
    that was pretty acurate

    but almost nothing has an original concept.

    more of the same is good if you just copy the good parts
     
  17. Aurora

    Aurora The Defiant

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2007
    Messages:
    3,732
    Likes received:
    15
    Trophy points:
    38
    From:
    The Netherlands
    Better to steal good stuff, then to come up with crap of your own.

    Also: who makes theses comics anyway?
     
  18. Ste

    Ste New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2008
    Messages:
    585
    Likes received:
    1
    Trophy points:
    0
    From:
    Chicago
    I don't know who made it but its pretty funny..