Starcraft protoss versus halo's covenent

Far less Zealots?

...In comparison to Elites?

...Because I'm pretty sure the Protoss are lacking in their main form of ground infantry.

And Zealots have a charge that is pretty much blink and you miss it.

I don't know about the Power Drain items Halo lorewise, but gameplay-wise they weren't really rare... just more uncommon.

And the Colossus thing is a bit of chance.

 

Yes, more Elites. And who said those power drainers were rare? :s
They were all over the place. That's why I see it as a big plus to the Covenant army.

 

I only kinda killed the space argument? I had the Covenant's chances of winning in space drawn and quatered.

Can I just say I could do the same thing with the ground battle or are you really going to force me to prove it? Three things though, first Protoss technology is powered psionicly not electrically (like human and Covenant tech), the energy drain weapons either wouldn't work or it wouldn't be nearly as effective. Second, Reavers launch explosives that would have the explosive power of the ffury tactical nukes I mention earlier. Finally, Reavers are redesigned Protoss factories, there big, in fact they are probably close to the size of a Scarab ( probably about .7 to .8 the height and lenght); now go look at the original artwork for the Colossus, you will notice the size of a Reaver relative to it, and now this argument should be over.

 

If the Covenant take out the protoss fleet with volleys of plasma torpedoes, there won't be any protoss on the ground due to the big ship laser from the cruisers.
The only reason covenant will win is because they've got massive numbers, strong weapons (not as strong as the protoss do though), and the fact that if the scouts attempt to come close, they would suffer intense losses due to torpedo volley.

400+ interceptors gone in the first volley and if they launch all of them, the covenant would have a very big chance of destroying the fleet of interceptors with plasma torpedoes

 

A-r-b-i-t-e-r.

Also, every single Protoss warrior has psionic ability. The blades on a Zealot's arms? Pure psionic energy focused through crystals. So much for that glorified EMP.

And it's no so much blink and you miss it, it's blink and you've got no head.


@Dragon - Read LK's posts again. And again if you still don't get it.

 

Dragon you have lost the argument in about the Covenant's chances in space. Reread my last mega post and you will see how the Protoss would win even without their fighters. Look at the attached image for the size of a plasma torpedo. Also, here is a quote about the accuracy of pasma torpedos:

Pelican dropships can evade them, Interceptors are basicly two large photon cannons attached to a huge engine, they are far and away the most manueverable ship, the Protoss have. Scouts the least manueverable fighter the Protoss have are still more manueverable than pelicans because they don't rely on thrusters in the normal sense of the word. The odds of any Protoss fighter getting hit by any pasma torpedo they are not trying to hit is very, very slim (the only reason I could forsee of a Protoss fighter getting intentionally hit by a plasma torpedo would be if they are trying to protect the capital ships by sacrificing themselves).

As for your argument about why the Covenant would win on the Ground, the Protoss can make the same one; Motherships have the ability to incinerate a planet on their own (a feat no Covenant ship can claim). The difference is unlike the Covenant the Protoss would win the space battle. However, if someone wants to we can argue what a ground battle would look like if there was no orbital bombardment on either side. I'll give you a hint, the Protoss win most of the time with maybe one or two exceptions (I can say this because I already have several arguments lined up as to why this is true).

 

Well, do ground battles include defenses like Shades? If so, then the ground troops will be having a hard time getting through. Those things have insane range. Scarabs will one-shot DT, HT and Zealot forces before they even get close. Those large Chopper things: put 2 fuel rods on the side, and just circle around large enemies. The Ghosts can assault stuff like Stalkers.

But of the Protoss manage to bring in Reavers and Collosi... Epic fail to Covenant.
They might hold them off with massive Hunter and Wraith support, but how long will that last?

 

I just can't picture it.

The moment the first line of zealots charge in at blurred speeds with their fiery eyes, advanced shields, psionic blades and the fury of centuries of controlled training, the covenant line would simply collapse.

That AND they are outteched in the vehicle department.

They may have the numbers but history has shown us what an elite army can do against larger opponents, especially if they are politically fractious like the covenant is.

 

The problem with the ground side of this debate is the Covenant doesn't have anything that comes anywhere close to the range or destructive power of a Reaver Scarab. Also, the Covenant doesn't have anything that comes anywhere close to a Colossus's or Archon's ability to absorb damage as well as dish it out in mass. The Covenant Scarab would really be the only real option for something that can stand up to a Colossus (metaphoricly speaking anyways, the Colossus is atleast 3 times the height of a Scarab), but the Covenant would need several to actually bring one down because just like a Scarab, small arms fire isn't going to do anything (enough Wraiths might have a chance to bring one down but the Covenant would need a bunch and they would be one shot if hit by a Colossus thermal lance). The Covenant would have a better chance of bringing down an Archon because of all of their anti-shielding technology but it would still be a hard fought battle and the Covenant losses would likely be sizable. If the Covenant can somehow deal with the Protoss siege weapons then they would stand a chance for success, but they would still really need to take advantage of their numbers and fight tactically, both of which, atleats in the Halo games, the Covenant weren't very good at.

 

New Deadliest Warrior episode.

Protoss VS Covenant.

 

So has everyone on the Covenant side surrendered?

 

Sigh...
"waves white flag"

 

Thanks for adding to a good debate Dragon God.

 

Well ya you could either look at the comparison of a elite and a zealot or the army as a whole.

 

Except, as we've shown, there isn't a comparison

 

You did really good also Kerwyn :yes:

 

Also i would like to add the fact that Archons are balls of energy but use "shields" in game so you can kill them.

Meaning you can't really shoot it with bullets like in Starcraft

 

Archons have a physical form look at my sig the blue stuff is just energy coming off them.

 

No they don't. It's like a ghost, or, more accurately, an angel. They have a noncorpreal figure.

 

Really so maybe they only last as long as their power stays more or less until they burn up like a star and this must be why they its a last resort method.