Stupid Americans

Nothing against the language, the sybols are just really to hard to learn. And it sucks to write in.

 

@ OP

and that is why I hardly ever listen to main stream media in the US as fact. When I first heard about Swine Flu reaching the US, I didn't care. I figured it was an overblown news casting.

1 kid dies out of 150+ cases in a population with over 300 million people...how is this any worse than any other disease? And why isn't the regular flu called a pandemic, it kills about 36k people/year in the US alone!(250k-500k worldwide)

At this rate, swine flu is actually much weaker than the normal flu.


http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2009/04/30/has-swine-flu-story-been-overblown/

 

Gaaaa

Eon, you missed the point, just like Hunter


The article is talking about the blatant racism and even xenophobia of many Americans.

 

I know that was the point, I read the other posts before commenting. Was just stating that I never fell for it, unlike so many others...

 

Oh.

Hell, it's the aporkalypse.

 

I'm from a middle eastern blood.... I mean my ancestor, since I'm a muslim. But you're right about the writing system, it's way to difficult to write and to understand it. but It's a beautiful language after all. Try to read the Koran and my opinion it's beautiful, I don't understand it but it's beautiful. As for the American Idiot, (ring a bell? Yes Green Day ) people are way to racist in some sector and pointing other finger without thinking the hell they were talking. I mean the elitism are way to negative for the American and better sort this thing out because America is a multicultural country in the world.. it's where the culture collide, so every word that you are saying that people can judge by their own point of view.

 

Best quote.. ever!

 

This article reminds me a scenario of an episode of South Park. Stupidy and ignorance of people leads to extremism.

 

Eh....if you examine history, America isn't nearly up to the crazy that it's had before. So at least there's SOME progress.

A question though: Are Americans really "stupid?" Or do Europeans and Americans just have different forms of stupid? Because from what I've observed, a lot of Americans that constantly say that Americans are stupid have themselves never been outside America; they just kind of assume that other people are right and roll along with it. But I'm just honestly curious. I'm learning a lot from our foreign members lately hehe

 

Just out of curiosity am I the only one getting tired of the "Stupid American" rhetoric that keeps popping up all over this site? I mean seriously it is pretty insulting to compare everyone who lives in the U.S. to the morons or bigots that keep being held up as an example of "Americans." And the worst part of it is, the amount of stuff that actually comes from a few of our members from the U.S. who seem like they just want to fit in with the non-Americans, or worse somehow seem to believe they are better than everyone else living in the U.S. because they have the "guts" to call everyone else an idiot. Just a thought...

Oh while I would like to think most people are mature enough to not post a cute response like, "Well it's true" or "All Americans are stupid/bigots," if it does happen I will happily join you on your level for the minute it takes me to type my password in and execute a command from the control panel...

 

QFT

it always bugs me when i see those video surveys showing Americans unable to answer simple questions, because they never show the ones that were actually able to answer the question, causing people to create false ideas that noone in America could answer that simple question.

I bet for every person they showed unable to answer, there were 4-5 people that could.

 

I'm not saying other nations doing have a problem, far from it. However, this sort of attitude seems to be most prevalent in third world countries and America. How often do you hear about, say, Germans blaming something on the British? I'm sure it happens, but not like this. There is an undeniable streak of xenophobia present in greater American culture than there is in very little other places. Do you think Spaniards worry about the French wiping their bottoms? Do the Romanians bash Bulgarians on popular radio and television talk shows?

In short, no. And no, it is not a puny little splinter fraction that holds these views either. It is a minority, true, but an extremely large one.

So yeah, I dis on Americans. Would you rather me judge situations I know nothing about? I would say that I am, in the very least, somewhat qualified for a social appraisal of American culture.

And in response to your little comment "somehow seem to believe they are better than everyone else living in the U.S. because they have the "guts" to call everyone else an idiot.", I do, wholeheartedly, believe I am better than people who hold this opinion. Closemindedness, xenophobia, racism, those are some of the worse aspects of humanity, right up there with cruelty and maliciousness. Do you not consider yourself better than one who hurts others for fun? I honestly fail to see the difference between those who beat up African-Americans because they're a different color and those who refuse to be served by a Mexican waiter.

 

Since the way the news portrays Mexico as the cause of the disease, it's not odd that many people would believe it was true.

And it's not uncommon for people to be racist/xenophobia with how the news spins everything. I'm pretty sure many of the current US generation will never fully trust Muslims after the 9/11 incedent. I try to be open minded, but it still bothers me that there are plenty of people out there that would love to decimate the US population in cold blood if given the chance.

And I fail to see how not wanting to be served by someone is equally as bad a physically beating them up.

 

9/11 != Swine flu. Not even the same league.

As far as the news, it depends on your source. If your source is Sean Hannity or Rush Limbagh....Well there you go. My news source is Bob Hope and Charles Trentleman. Neither of them blame Mexico.

The last bit, it's the concept. Not so much the act of beating them up, but doing it because they're a certain culture or ethnicity.

 

@Fenix
Do you not see your own hypocrisy? You yourself just said the the bigot American is a minority view, and then you went on to say you dis on Americans, you didn't specify which Americans you just said Americans. That is exactly the same thing as dissing on African Americans or Latin Americans because a minority happen to be involved in gangs, drugs, or what have you.

Your right we don't hear about same kind of hate in European countries as we do about our hate in the U.S.. Guess what you live in the U.S. you are going to hear more about what goes on in the U.S.. Also, there is 300 million people in the U.S. and only 500 million people in the entire E.U. you are going to here more things about the U.S. than any single E.U. country.

Also, the point of my comment was not whether or not there are bigots in the U.S. that is a fact I am not going to argue. The point of my post was there is this annoying generalization on this site, and in general that Americans are somehow noticeably less civilized and intelligent than any other modern country.

Finally, try this on one for size, if we counted anti-American as hate I wonder how the vaunted European countries would compare to us "un-civilized" folk...

 

Oh, right, because I haven't specified in the preceding paragraph, I must mean all Americans. Whoops, my bad.

I actually do hear about quite a few EU injustices as the majority of my news sources are multinational. Yes, there's bigotry there (just look at south Spain. Dear Lord.). Yes there's f***ed up ****. No there's not even close to the boatloads that we have in America.

I'm not saying Americans suck. I never even said all Americans are stupid. In fact, when posting this, I believe the title is "Stupid Americans." Americans that are stupid.

Anit-Americanism is not the same thing. We're an arrogant nation, there's really no denying it. Hell, I'm American, and I'm arrogant as hell. BUT. There is obviously a difference between what, say, France feels towards America, and what American feels towards Mexico.

 

Ok, 1) Let's simmer down.

2) Bigotry in the US is large than in Europe? There is bigotry everywhere in Europe. A lot of European countries are going through the same anti-foreigner bigotry that the US goes through with every wave of immigration. The difference between the US and European bigotry is that it is mostly confined to radio shows and the occasional dumbass. We don't chant ape sounds at NBA games or NFL games whenever we see a black player like what sometimes happens with European soccer games. The US still has race problems, for sure. I live right next to LA, believe me I know. But there's no reason to say that racial problems are bigger in the US than in any other place in the world. I seem to recall a very big issue with race/religion in a small area called Kosovo about 15 years back.

3) Americans, usually those who lean more left-wing, tend to depict Europe as a more utopian society and that the US is far behind our more "civilized" brothers in the Western world. Sure, the United States has much to learn from Europe, especially in subjects such as energy (but even the Europeans are reliant on natural gas from Russia and gas is far far more expensive in Europe). But the issue is also reciprocated. There's a reason why 17 of the top 20 universities of the world are in the United States and there's a reason why the United States is in the position it is. What many people do not understand is that what works in Europe won't necessarily work in the US and vice versa. The US could never have a socialist-type policy of government because of factors such as history, culture, and present situation. The same way goes for why the Europeans can't spend trillions of dollars on defense and can instead divert those funds to more internal projects. Same for the US's two-party system with balances between federal and state governments and the European multi-party parliamentary system. Both sides are related, yet there will always be an American culture and a European culture.

Those are just observations that I have made within my short life hehe.

 

Why do most Americans hate people in Mexico? A nice general synthesis might be that they are a 3rd world country (or act like it). You yourself just said that the U.S. acts like a 3rd world country in some aspects. So the hate for Americans is justified, and Mexicans not? They both have similar reasoning what makes one okay and the other not? The answer is neither is okay and the reasons for both are flawed. But as long as someone believs one is okay and the other not, they are showing their hypocrisy.

Because some of us believe we are better than someone living in Mexico (or any other country for that matter). So why is someone who believes they are better than an American not arrogant? Like I said earlier, neither is okay and the reasons for both are flawed.

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Anyways this is kinda drifting off the point of my original post. I know the way people view the U.S. won't change overnight, and I can't stop people from expressing anti-American views in general. However, on this forum there seems to be an abundance of anti-American opinions with little counter argument, which gets old. Also, about half of our viewers are from the U.S. so things like "Stupid Americans" appearing on the new threads sidebar could potentially harm the growth of the site in general. That's my 2 cents anyways.

 

I just feel the need to say this, and then turn my back on this topic again. I know little to nothing about the general population over there. The only thing that could be proven by me is that to many people there are overweighted. Anyway, here I go:

That is still roughly 20 percent of the total population. Quite a lot in my opinion.

And if you see on tv how most American citizins think: follow the leader. They first want to go to this war, then they protest as the other political party gets the upper hand. First they never want to inverst in clean power for some reason, then some bloke -If you have no idea who, get out of that cave right now and look aroun.- comes along and loses the elections, but everybody listens to him, and the green hype has been born. Most Americans are lost without famous people constantly telling them what to do, especially in the cities, where image is your biggest asset.

 

@Kerwyn, ok ill specify it for you
Some of your politicians, especially the ones in the higher levels of government
everyone in a cult or sect or wutever(there are far less cults and sects in Europe(or at least France, belgium, netherlands, luxemburg and germany))
anyone who says "yeah America has some faults, but we're a young nation and still learning"
everyone who believes Europe is utopia

yeah, i just thought that up with no reliable basis or wutever


@itsmyship, when talking about Europe, most people mean western europe, so not kosovo


in Europe we have "those" politicians too though, like the president of Italy, and we also have some too far out right-winged politicians, like the Dutch Geert Wilders.
I wouldnt say Europe is an utopia, far from that, but i have to say that in some ways our countries are governed better (Though economically America rocks, cool stuff comes either from America or Japan, never Europe)