Suck it, capitalism

I apologize for the brevity- but I'd like to note, along the lines of LK, that the comparisons being made here are very poor. We're trying to compare the entire population of a continent-spanning country, to countries with populations smaller than many individual states within that country.

If you're not taking into account both population and population density, you're doing something very wrong.

 

no, i dont think so

that'd be like saying
yeah, we are not as happy a country as you, but thats due to being shot in the crotch every day, so it doesnt count (yeah i am excaggerating)

If your people arent happy because of population size and population density, thats your problem, one hard to solve at that, but not an excuse
@population density: ever read about Holland, bub

 

You think the military is for beating the **** out of people? You're a sick warmonger. You fight to protect, not to destroy, or obtain. I hope you join the military, and you get shot on your first day. I have friends in the military, of multiple countries, people I care a lot for. By your logic, they will all be deployed to fight whenever something goes wrong, and they will probably end up getting hurt. I can't stand people like you. Think you have the right to impose yourself on other people.

 

Indeed.

G-force; grow up and get educated before spouting such inane beliefs. The invention of the military was not based on beating citizens back into line. I scratch my head and ponder where you were educated, or if you're being serious.

 

I wasn't being serious, at all. However, i do apoligize for any miss conceptions i made about my beliefs. I truly believe the military is only for the defence of any ones respective homeland. I am educated, but i just have a really dark sense of humor, besides its so much fun watching people take things way out of proportion all because of one paragraph. So once again if i offended you, I'm sorry.

Darkone: I do plan to go into a branch, and if i get shot the first day of deployment, well it was worth it then. They wasted ammo on me so the others will live and blow the sons to hell.

 

There is a difference between a dark sense of humour, and being an ass.

There are quite a few people on this forums that are in the Military, two I can think of right off hand. Also another person who's father was in the military for years and years.

Takk Light.

 

Diplomacy -




American concept of diplomacy -





Something is wrong with that.

 

Yes thank you, it's ****ed up.

 

Hey the Us has never out-right assassinated a country leader, we usually just embargo their country. Now Britain on the other hand, have a different history on that subject.

 

Lol.

Not for lack of trying.

We just suck at it is all.

 

Yeah... British actions new and old are pretty ****ing shameful in that area :s.

 

It's the concept, not the actual actions.

 

Erhm, I find the British Empire's oldschool actions as pretty damn shamefull. I agree that there were concepts or ideals that drove the actions, but deep down, all it was was colonisation at the barrel of a pointed gun. You cant just say it had nothing to do with the actions..

Hell, come to Britain - our museums are a testimony of what we took from everyone else at gunpoint xD.

 

Funny - that's the American dream

 

What is the ACTUAL American dream btw? And i mean the stareotypical 'america the free' one which they poke your young uns with :s.

 

"The American Dream is that dream of a land in which life should be better and richer and fuller for everyone, with opportunity for each according to ability or achievement. It is a difficult dream for the European upper classes to interpret adequately, and too many of us ourselves have grown weary and mistrustful of it. It is not a dream of motor cars and high wages merely, but a dream of social order in which each man and each woman shall be able to attain to the fullest stature of which they are innately capable, and be recognized by others for what they are, regardless of the fortuitous circumstances of birth or position."

 

Hvaing never really been poked with it per say, I probably won't be to put as fine a point on it as Fenix. However, whenever I thikn of the true 'American Dream' I think of the idea of someone who started out with nothing or close to nothing growing up to become an educated person with a fair chance of becoming atleast wealthy enough were his/her own children don't have to go through the same poverty as they did.

TBH though I have never really caught onto some of the traditional stuff a lot of people tend to so I know I am not the best person to ask.

As for the 'American Diplomacy' image, I personally approve of that approach sometimes, generally when the other side has chosen to take a similar approach first. For example that is the approach the U.S. took with the Somali pirates but I would interested to meet anyone who actually believes the U.S. did something wrong in that incident.

EDIT: I started typing this before Fenix posted.

 

I was actually quoting the guy who came up with the term 'American Dream.'

See, I can agree with you on that LK...The sniping of the Somali pirates was probably better than the alternatives. I personally have no qualms about take a life if it's a last resort. But if and only then. What irks me about our current situation is the lies. If Iraq had WMD's, and had a large chance of using them, then sure, by all means, go in and FSU. But lies? Torture? OH EXCUSE ME enhanced interrogation techniques? Indiscriminate murder of civilians.

Yeah, so 'they' do that. But if we do it, doesn't it just prove that we're no better than they are?

 

I had to do a paper on that very subject in Junior English in High school. Regardless to say, I didn't do it, cause it is a flawed topic.

The most enslaved man, is the one who thinks he is free.

Every once in a while, that approach is needed, but that isn't diplomacy, that is just making them think it is. If only things never had to get that far, ever.

 

I most wholeheartly disagree. The most enslaved man is the one who convinces himself that he is not free. As long as he thinks himself free, he cannot be truly enslaved.