The Paranormal

First of all please stop using my typos as your argumentation. Yes, its a typo, I am sorry and thank you for correcting me. Happy?

Back on topic. I am realist, open-mindness is not necessary artibute to obtain the truth.
Please point out to me any solid evidence for super-beings, or ghosts or another fiction you want to include under this topic. So far Ive seen people throwing around things like "open-mindness" and "you have to believe". Well I am sorry, although these things might be helpful they are not at all evidence. There is no evidence for such things as g-g-g-ghosts. Absence of logical explanation does not mean the god had to do it. And Ill repeat myself, so far through the means of science we busted most of the paranormal crap and counting, as far as I know its 9999:0 for science.

Now go back to making threads about disprooving evolution and saluting to creationism will you?

Edit: Ive just noticed few spelling mistakes in my posts, just to let you know. So you might want to abort your plans on taking down my argurmentation by pointing out my spelling errors and therefore somehow making my arguments obsolete. If you really want typo-free posts Ill check for spelling mistakes next time, but I dont think this discussion deserves it.

 

What would I do if they were real? There's no point in imagining it because it can't happen. What would you do if a man flew around the world delivering presents to every single child (except the poor or jewish ones) in a single night?

 

If you see no point then you don't have to post here. You've expressed your opinion already, do you have anything else to add?

And Santa is a completely different story.

Worker, no one said your argument is invalid because of a typo.
What does creationism have to do with that though?

 

I think there's no point in imagining them, not that there's no point in discussing them.

Discussions usually have dissenting opinions. Why should only pro- arguments be allowed in this topic?

 

It's not about arguments, but the way they're presented. You saying:

suggests that to you this whole discussion is pointless.

 

Its just a semi-insult. I mean if you really believe in that sort of stuff you might also believe in god and creationism and then you turn out to be right-wing religious fanatic who wants to doom us all and...

 

You're right. I'm sorry, I'll leave at once.

 

Yup, were just speculating/discussing the existence of ghosts or entities.

 

That's really assuming for an open-minded person like you.
Not everyone who believes in ghosts has to believe in God and not every religious person is fanatic. (Well infact that would be minority nowadays but that's beside the point).

And why do religious people want to doom us all?

 

Were getting off-topic

 

Stay on topic guys... Here, I will post some links...

Part 1 http://youtube.com/watch?v=eyy5PpBZh1M

Part 2 http://youtube.com/watch?v=YJvVPYAzKik

Part 3 http://youtube.com/watch?v=J9rc8iiaCSA

Part 4 http://youtube.com/watch?v=Sw1aJYD-5do

Part 5 http://youtube.com/watch?v=HWo397_Zr0Y

Just watch the whole thing, all five parts. They have like 50 episodes on different places and even homes.

I know this isn't proof, but this is an example. These people aren't like most investigating teams who just go in and say, "I feel a presence... Looks like this place is haunted!" These guys actually collect evidence from cameras, video cameras, and tape recorders.

TheWorker... How am I using a typo against you... I just said you guys spelled ridiculous wrong thats all, by the way, I'm an Atheist, I don't believe in god or heaven or hell and the bible... Don't flame me!

Ackbar, your opinion does not matter to me unless you back it up. And the fact that your supposed to be 89 years old is testament to the idiocy of your brain.

Edit: Sorry, I forgot you don't have a brain.

 

I would also love to discover these "paranormals". But even if they all were real paranormals and not just the camera bugging or cheap special effects to get some money out of US tv network, I dont see a reason why would you assume that they are caused by super-beings (or any other stuff for that matter). Oh and stop going off-topic about my remarks about religion etc. They are ment to be provocative phrases not the main body of my argument.

AdmiralAckbar: You argument fails. Few pixels above you is a proof that only 1/5 of people in here believe in ghosts. therefore using "so many people" is kinda irrelevant. Ill gladly support you with your "most people in these forums are idiots" policy once you get some proper arguments and evidence.

 

I never said they were caused by super-beings... I said they were paranormal things, not necessarily ghosts. If you had watched it, what would you call that black mass?

Did you just change your signature?

 

*coughs*

To me it looks that you are suggesting existence of some kind of super-entity. If not then I dont understand why does this thread have 4 pages beacause paranormal things happen, the thing we are arguing about is if they are caused by santa claus or 42 degree angle refraction.

Hmmm... no?

 

I'm not saying that there are such things as super-entities, just spirits or ghosts. Why can't you understand that? I mean, your avatar is a brain... How can I be suggesting a super-being in the second quote of me? Just how? I was saying that lots of organizations are trying to find ghosts, and most of them are faked footage, but some are genuine paranormal/ghostly things...

What would you say that black mass is in the video footage that the investigators caught?

How are we arguing about it being caused by Santa Claus? Were discussing whether or not ghosts exist. Not about religion or santa... Okay??!?!!??!?!!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!??!?!?!?!??!?!!?!?!?!!?

 

i may be a christian, but i favor science

 

super-beings = ghosts, spirits, gods, santa clauses... Okay??!?!!??!?!!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!??!?!?!?!??!?!!?! ?!?!!?

 

What do you think causes these if they're really paranormal?
Looking from scientific point of view tere must be a cause behind everything, so what would it be if not "ghosts"?
(not supporting ghosts existance here, I'm just curious what is your theory on this)

PS: Please avoid quoting posts right above yours, it's against forum rules

 

As you pointed out, these things, provided that it's not fake or camera malfunctioning, is just a paranormal phenomenon. It does not proove ghosts in any way.
I have no real theory, I believe that all these paranormals can be explained in scientific terms without a need for any ghosts.

PS: I was pointing out specific bits of his post therefore I feel its justified to quote it even though it's right above me.

 

But you quoted just entire post a couple of times before that, that's what I was referring to.

What do you mean by paranormal then? Isn't it an event or occurence that is not explainable by (our current knowledge of ) science?