The perfect government

I am guessing your a conservative (or atleast define yourself as such) because you tossed both liberals and enviromentalists on the extreme ends of a scale where neither end is positive and put conservatives in the middle.

I amm guess what I am saying is I find your scale to be an amussing form of propoganda.

 

I am aware of that, thats why I said "in todays current society" in my post just to give a example on how difficult it could be to do. Saying you would outlaw religion means that there has to be religions there in the society in the first place and with that comes religious institutions etc. Which is why I'm saying my opinion in that it would be impossible to abolish it all at once without severe consequences,

I think what your trying to say is that you wouldn't have any religion at all in your society and it would be illegal to have any of those believes right?

 

all 3 different parties has something that is good. Thats why they are in my perfect governemnt. If something was bad, it was not included in my perfect governemnt. And were the one party is lacking in effective governmentmanegement the other party will take over. Its like a YING YANG thingy except now there is 3 colours.

 

I read the Topic name and that is all I needed. I didn't even bother with reading the text. The topic itself is fruitless.

And my response. Will never happen. The reasoning behind this is pure and simple. We are animals, feral, hairy, primitive, and protective.

As we grow up from a little fetus to a wrinkly looking senior, we have different experiences and reactions according to those experiences based off of earlier information and data gained from past experiences.Thus, we are all individuals and as such will never fully come to an agreement. Even on subject that would seem simple minded and almost infallibly agreeable to one would seem to be the total opposite by another.

As proof that this topic is hopeless and will undoubtedly lead to barbaric little squabbles veiled with things such as sophistication, grammar, and other thing that make ones point seem superior is ultimately pushed forward by primitive emotions such as the need to beat an opponent or be superior due to the lack of self-confidence. By simply disputing this well known (or possible not so well know, which would be another sign of ignorance) fact you prove, support, reinforce, and signify the truth of it.

EDIT: The End.

 

Democratic miniarchy.

Boo ya.

 

A perfect utopia could only be done by a central mind of something like a computer and a insanly high level of intellect and less on the feelings of a species.

The perfect goverment is one that is balanced by the will of the people but has enough power to control things so people don"t go rogue (terrorists for example) its got to be equal power in all repect with something watching over something else states watching over the federal and vice versa.

The way the us goverment was set up when it was founded is probly the best system I can currently think of because it alows for a balanceing system and a governing law that dosen"t state that any one branch "acully has power".

power and greed will corrupt anywhere and anyone from child stars (micheal Jackson) to hitler

 

Indeed, ever hear the quote "absolute power, corrupts absolutely"? I think that is one of the problems, not the system itself but the people who are in it. You could have the best system there is but it wouldn't manner if the people in power weren't responsible enough or are able to make sacrifices for the people.

 

Or you could get a large group of people who are fit to run the utopia. Obtain nuclear missiles launch them at the Chinese framing it as a US nuclear attack. Then when the world ends you crawl out kill the survivors and begin creating said utopia.

 

Gah, I never really liked the past generation. They really screwed this one up.

It's not possible to have a perfect government. Even if theoretically possible, we wouldn't be able to execute it properly. Either:

A) People are too dumb
B) People are too lazy

will ultimately be the downfall. The dumb people hold society back and the lazy people kill society.

But... the democratic system we have is alright, but the politicians who run for office are liars or just not capable. They fill us with hope, and then when they are in the office position, they forget about their promises to the people. Or just entice the uneducated public with something that sounds good like lower taxes even though it's bad for the country's future (BUSH)

 

This has gone off topic again its not about forming IRL Its just asking what would a perfect government look like. NOT IF ONE COULD EXIST!

 

the perfect government? a well-designed computer that runs everything and ensures the greatest freedom for everyone while minimizing harm. nobody will like it, but at least everyone can hate it equally. hopefully it won't go nuts and start wiping out the human race. also, hackers would probably be able to screw it up and exploit it to their advantage, but that's no different from the government we have today.

Ta-da!

 

The best form of government is a system that has no government at all whereas the education of every individual and technology becomes so advance and efficient that it transcends the need for a governing body.

 

just jumped over everyone's post, and I'm pretty sure that some1 has said this bfore but:

The best government...

...is the citizens

 

Care to extrapolate? Your idea implies either anarchy or democracy.

 

I think its a little too late for anarchy... The world wouldn't function properly.

 

nono, not anarchy, I mean to vote for everything
no leader, ruled by "the peoples combined voices" ^^

 

You mean like Switzerland? But no. Although certain things certainly could be moved into public referendums the majority would still have to remain in the parliment purely for practicality issues. Majority of people will not be able and/or willing to vote on every single thing that comes around and it is dangerous considering that most people will not fully understand what the laws or resolutions that they vote on really are.

 

Anarchy, but it would be a long process to get there; if it were to happen all of a sudden I could see a very chaotic scenario.

In this society, technology with renewable resources provides anything such as food, clothing, medical treatment, electronics, etc in plenty abundance. Automation technology will remove the need for minimum wage workers and service workers, eventually removing the need for money. Education of any kind is free. No government or institutions required.

 

Sooo Shogun...you mean modern communism?

I support a reduction in democratic rights where experts replace politicians in each of their respective field so that every policy expressed to the public doesn't have a huge amount of spin behind it just to make them think it will benefit them. There's no real gain for the general public from democracy if the decision your making is based on misleading infomation from both sides. Also short term decisions with long term consequences to win votes would be less of a problem. Disadvantages however is that there is a chance that "experts" will take immoral actions. However (for example) economists are generally more for social welfare than right wing parties so its not clear cut.

 

Eh I have mentioned this idea a few times elsewhere and someone always has to think of communism. It's not communism marinefreak. In communism, resources are rationed equally to everyone (or at least that's the idea), but in this society all resources are in abundance, and there is no rationing.

Marinefreak, are you suggesting meritocracy?