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The Ultimate Mystery

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Rebel Head, Feb 12, 2010.

The Ultimate Mystery

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by Rebel Head, Feb 12, 2010.

  1. Jshep89

    Jshep89 New Member

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    Well the universe is known right? Time also known right? So if both are infinite its possible you could re obtain consciousness after death millions maybe even billions of years later when the particles that make up our brains chemistry is put back together in the exact same way. I mean if time and space are infinite then it has to happen eventually.


    On a side note I just want to go ahead and make it clear that I don't believe what i said before to be true I just simply think it is possible. But honestly why do you people constantly ask a question you will never have the answer to? You don't know what happens when you die and you won't KNOW until you die. So stop asking stupid questions. In my opinion the dumbest questions asked are the ones that have no real answers. This and the origins of the universe are two of such questions. If you think about it life is an anomaly a random freak occurrence. So anyone alive is very lucky. Why waste life wondering about death? Your going to find out eventually stop bothering your self with it and just focus on living.
     
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  2. asdf

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    fallacy. even given infinite chances, not all events will occur. some things have zero chance of occurring.

    also, universe is not infinite.
     
  3. Rebel Head

    Rebel Head New Member

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    Well some people like to talk about the unknown, and draw out ideas. Not everyone is hoping for an answer, it's just fun to hear everyone's opinions. Isn't that what a discussions is all about?

    I wouldn't presume to know that answer when it is a mystery to everyone in the world.
     
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  4. Higgs Boson

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    Jshep89: Then everything you claim to know must be first hand exerience. I know that if I throw my tea cup out of the window it is going to fall down and smash on the ground because I know what gravity is and what a tea cup is. Same goes for death. Reality clearly points to death being final. We are the products of out brain activity - no brain activity - no us. There is no ambiguity about it whatsoever. The only reason why you refuse to accept a simple syllogism is because you can no longer dream about living on a little cloud once you die.
     
  5. Jshep89

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    As i said brain activity could start up again once the universe repeats the actions that caused you to have said brain activity in the first place. If time and space are both infinite then its only a matter of time until the events surrounding earths creation and your creation happen again.
     
  6. Higgs Boson

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    Actually it's not. Infinite time does not equate into certainty for events with low probability. Second of all there is this thing called Entropy that pretty much throws that out of the window.
     
  7. Spardas

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    Just WHAT exactly is gravity btw?? I bet its sth u cant actually define just like death....just like what created everything why we came to be on this planet...given consciousness and stuff like that...
    Ur nick name higgs boson...isnt that a particle that hasnt yet been detected??it exists only by hypothesis....now afterlife is more than just hypothesis its about believing....i dont understand why dismiss such beliefs that come from thousands of years ago to a hypothesis of reality which has been a trend for only 8-10 years...So what do u expect to believe in afterlife see ghosts and ghostbusters? it doesnt work that way...it would be too apparent and would require no faith at all....
     
  8. Higgs Boson

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    I can also make you a word salad. Only mine comes with cucumbers.
     
  9. asdf

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    wow, there is so much wrong with that argument i don't know where to start. but "hypothesis of reality which has been a trend for only 8-10 years" really made me LOL.
     
  10. Spardas

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    u can ofc see that the word hypothesis comes together with the higgs particle right?
     
  11. asdf

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    no, it refers to the word "reality". if you meant something different, learn proper grammar and sentence structure.
     
  12. Spardas

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    sorry for not being from america or england for that matter...i gave an explanation...thats how i meant it...move on
     
  13. Higgs Boson

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    Sorry but I honestly have hard time understanding what you're saying. How about you try again and one at a time?
     
  14. ica-finger

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    VERY VALID POINT!

    Very!

    But life can't end :D where does life go?
     
  15. asdf

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    actually not so valid point. the idea of a closed universe (i.e. it has an end time when it will collapse on itself) has pretty much been disproven. the universe is expanding and it's not going to slow down.

    unless you mean the exact same conditions will happen again in another part of the universe, which is still unlikely, and on top of that, there's inherent randomness on the quantum level, so even if you managed to perfectly recreate all the conditions the end result can still be different.
     
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    Awhile back, my friend and I came up with this crazy hypothesis we called randomizement in which the smallest building block particles are sentient, and everything that exists is a product of their will, and interaction together. It went along the guise of how consciousness is what really forms this universe, and the desire to be something more than just a particle is what motivated life to form. Our minds itself could be just the collective consciousness of trillions of trillions of particles. Life has come so far now, continously dying off and improving itself, and now we are here... what will happen next? What is life heading for? Will we eventually be so biologically perfect that our bodies do not age for a very long time? Will our minds become powerful enough to manipulate the properties of the universe and modify it how we see fit? The possibilities and potential fascinates me, it really makes life worth living. Death is inescapable for now, but were living through history my friends.
     
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  17. ica-finger

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    My big point is that nobody can tell me where an ended life goes. I belive your life spins, by a higher force, so live relive again, karmastyle. Life can't disappear otherwise universe would self-die. Suicide-style.
     
  18. Higgs Boson

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    Is anyone going to be bothered to adress ica-fingers nonsense or are we in an agreement that ignoring it is in everybodys best interest?
     
  19. asdf

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    ...yeaaaahhhh i can't make sense of what ica's trying to say.

    PROTIP #1: the universe doesn't care what you believe, it just is what it is. try not to come to conclusions before you have data.
     
  20. ica-finger

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    Since when is reincarnation (buddhist, hinduist) style bull****? But really consider it, since dawn's time, other planets etc. Life must have come from something, maybe the energy big bang created gave the energyimpulses of millions of thing to come around and come to life. Consider it. Nonsense Schmonsene, come back with a valid, concrete point, then you can talk.