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Twilight Rage...

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by ItzaHexGor, Sep 20, 2009.

Twilight Rage...

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by ItzaHexGor, Sep 20, 2009.

  1. Meee

    Meee New Member

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    I thought their senses don't work at all, but it's just one of these things that has as many versions as there are people you hear it from.
     
  2. ItzaHexGor

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    Why yes, yes I am. Because there are two types of people in the world, Aurora, people who like vampires, and people who rant about them at great length in order to intentionally piss off a specific person they know on a particular forum they frequent.

    I'm well aware of that, which is why I said;

    Believe it or not, words grow beyond the meaning of the words from which they originally came from. That's why we're not all speaking Latin today. I'll give you some examples when I get back home.

    I'll comment on the other stuff when I get back home, too.
     
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    Don't worry, I know you weren't trying to piss me off. I'm not that bad. Jeez.
     
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    mmnaky. i read twilight, and i kinda liked it, tbh (oh teh noes, i know you're already thinking imma proclaim it as the next coming of christ). yeah, it's cliche as hell but i normally read brutal adventures full of gore, violence, betrayal and zero real romance aside from off to the side. i mean the last books i've read in the last few months were the gulag archipelago, in cold blood, night falls fast: understanding suicide, the great gatsby, the lovely bones, the glass castle. So, needles to say, i don't read romantic drivel. it melts my brain.

    so, really, yes. i really liked the creative artistry (aka making **** up), but it was a nice difference from me from my normal gorefest. anyway, i completely agree, pretty much. it's definitely overhyped and girls need to STFU about it. like, seriously. i'm tired of how much crap this book caused (can't say vamp without being flocked by fangirls). it's really annoying because there are DEFINITELY a lot more books that deserved more response than this (like, the entire fiction section). the main character is a bland, talentless, depressing (ugly) ***** that everyone falls in love with for some reason despite her lack of any personality at all. and the vampire becomes an angst muffin full of woe and dread, it's annoying (and the plot later is so depressingly awful). i liked the read, but it turns into such over rated, over hyped, over loved BS. 9and in the alst book there was no final fight scene. i was so ****ing pissed)

    The vampire is, indeed, an undead abomination. I've been writing, and my vamp in the series is in love with this human girl, but he's a bloody abomination for lack of better terms. he goes bat**** insane with blood, he eats people, he has little regard for human life, he's strong, the sun breaks him to pieces (not that anyone cares, lol x3). but, i've made it so they're not undead, they're their own race. yes, vampires started as he undead, but i think it's just getting over rated with all the rules of it so whatever. it was the classic bites, and the romance was alright. bloodthirsty murderers can be romantic, too 3: but sparkling in the sun is for *******. seriously, she totally pulled that out of her *** for some reason.

    And, you find out (not that it matters) that the 'werewolves' in the series aren't really werewolves. they're shape shifters that turn into wolves. the real werewolves are elsewhere being cursed (and too badass to be ruined by this book). i think, however, the writer just said that in the last book because people were getting pissed about the werewolves be giant wolves and not soemthing more menacing like this --> http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p46/SkullGhost/bild17.jpg

    so yes, agreed on pretty much all the points. vamps need to be returned to their scarier selves. tbh, i want more books about werwolves. i personally think they're more ba than vampires. vampires are unholy, uber powerful, extremely (for some weird reason. maybe rotting flesh is hot?) seductive and fast. werewolves are actual good lore, that aren't overdone. they still can be cool, not that i think vamps art. just creative work making a fool of awesome things again : (
     
  5. LordKerwyn

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    Juts to preface this post the only thing I know nothing about Twilight and the only connection I can claim is sharing a parking lot with the cast and crew for one of the movies for a couple of days (which was an annoying inconvience to say the least).

    Anyways, I think the defining charateristics of a Vampire is they consume their victims life force to survive (normally through blood), are immortal (normally through being undead), are severly injured//destroyed by sunlight (I am fine with super powerful vampires being able to survive in sunlight for a short time), and they are evil (hence why they are injured by holy objects). Most vampires should share these traits (though there specifc implementation should vary with setting) and if there is ever an exception (which should be rare) no more than one of these traits should be drasticly altered. The problem with some modern vampires is they are violating 2 or 3 of these 4 defining traits which leaves a viewer going WTH?

    The same thought process seems to effect modern werewolves but I will comment on that at another time.
     
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    yea the first book was actually nice, but the rest..........bleh
    anyways, all good points, but easily countered by the events within the books. it turns out there are no werewolves too, yea, go figure.
     
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    Quote from Urbandictionary. Pretty much sums up my feelings on Twilight:

    Cliché #1:
    The new girl in school who is awkward and clumsy and terrible at everything. How many times have we seen and read this?

    Cliché #2:
    The new girl falling in love with the hottest guy in school (Edward). No one saw that coming.

    Cliché #3:
    Despite the new girl's awkwardness and plain looks, the hottest guy in school falls in love with her. The epitome of originality, am I right? *sarcasm*

    Cliché #4:
    The new girl is hopelessly in love with the hottest guy in school to the point where you want to slap her because she'll do literally everything and anything the hottest guy in school will tell her to do just for him.

    Cliché #5:
    The vampire (who is the hottest guy in school), despite his love for the new girl, thirsts for her blood and struggles to control his bloodlust. Wow.

    Cliché #6:
    The vampire is a good vampire who doesn't want to hurt humans, so he feeds off of animals instead. *cough* Louis from Interview with the Vampire *cough*

    Cliché #7:
    The vampire thinks he's a monster and that the new girl should stay away from him if she values her life, but of course the new girl risks her life to be with him.

    Cliché #8:
    The new girl would rather die than not be with the vampire, which is the stupidest thing anyone on this Earth can ever say. Yes, I understand she's madly and hopelessly and stupidly in love with him, but you only get one life. She isn't even considerate of the family members she would leave behind who would mourn her death.

    There is no plot to the story. It's just a bunch of events that happens between Bella and Edward.

    The writing in the beginning is so plain, and even though it does get better, it's still not good.

    There's no figuritive language and not much description. The only thing the author seems to describe is Edward's appearence. Every other freaking sentence is talking about this muscular arms or smile or face or eyes or hair. It's like she created this book to produce a bazillion teenaged fangirls who are obsessed with Edward and don't care about the rest of the story. There really is nothing original about this book. Nothing that the author has come up with on her own.


    Now to move on from that, tell me, what do you know from vampires as a kid?

    1) They can't go into the sun, it burns their skin.
    2) They like to suck blood.
    3) They can not see their reflections, nor can anyone.

    What does it say in twlight? You can't go into the sun or you'll sparkle like a f*g? Seriously, that's it? Oh, and the vegetarian vampire thing. Seriously, Bella doesnt even love Edward she's just after the cool and pretty looking kid. Giving our youth the idea that you should just wh*re yourself off to the prettiest kid in school and you'll get deep and meaningful relationships.

    The book is horrible. Plus it's written by a Mormon....
     
  8. darkone

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    Rats. Interview with the Vampire was a pretty good book, but the second one was my favourite of the series. And yes I own most of them. 8/10 to be more precise.

    Ok? You know one of our mods is Mormon right?
     
  9. Imagine.

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    All I needed was crackers when I watched the movie. The huge amount of cheese meant no shortage to my enjoyment of snacks.

    The thing that really annoyed me was how she was so.... orgasmic... in everything!

    And LOL! IHG... I really laughed my *** off when he sparkled.... LMAO!!! Just thinking about it.... LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    I was merely poking fun. Not everything that comes out of someones mouth is direct prejudice or meant to be harmful V_V
     
  11. darkone

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    When you quote someone to talk about something specific they said, you omit the rest of it, either by just deleting it, or with (...). Just to Clarify.

    Well I wasn't sure, sorry.