US Health Care Reform

Me smells another 911-truther.

 

F*ck yeah I am a 9-11 truther, you would have to be pretty blind and stupid to look at all the evidence that supports that those "terrorist" attacks were an inside job and disclaim it as silly conspiracy theories. There is too much evidence to ignore it. Haha 9-11 truther indeed, they'll call out anybody who isn't afraid of speaking out and give 'em a big stfu. Kind of like what they are doing with Obama haters now, calling them out as rascists. Hell, there are some blacks who speak out against him.

 

Not sure if your cynicism crossed the threshold of racism there >>

Ah well we can wait another decade or so for China to be the world power so we won't have conspiracy theories anymore because they'll all actually be true....

Its a politicans job...why would any country be dumb enough to give any one man (or women) power over things such as the economy, military etc when they know very little about them compared with hundreds of advisors or specialists?

Also I see no connection between the SA and a civilian military as one is party controlled while the other is state unless of course you’re saying the republicans and democrats are a single party . I am unsure of the secret police force you talk of as the gestapo relied purely off denunciations and was infact very small and is was only played up in the 1950's and 60s to reduce the guilt of normal German people.

People need to stop seeing governments as giant organised forces run by supermen i really doubt humans are capable of that level of organisation (At least studying Nazi Germany made me bitterly cynical of the true power behind dictatorships)

But back on topic...it will be disappointing if America doesn't improve her health care system

 

There has been a large amount of peer reviewed scientific papers produced in favour of the standing explanation behind the 9/11 events.
Not a single peer reviewed scientific paper supports any version of 'The 9/11 conspiracy'.
This desinformation is spread by the same kind of people who claim Apollo never landed on the moon, think that they have a chip implant in their brain and believe that Obama is the anti-christ. Obviously it is too hard to believe that the US government simply *****ed up. As if any government, especially the US one, ****ed up anything that it comes in contact with.

 

9/11 Truther? What is that? I've never heard of that before, sorry. Please elaborate.

 

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=truther

Now please back to the topic. If you want to discuss stories written by delusional people create another thread please.

 

That's happened once.

It was this.

I have never been able to find anything convincing saying that 9/11 was 100% an inside job. I do grant that it's possible that Al-Quaeda had/has people in the upper government that allowed it to happen, but anyone who says it's a completely yellow flag attack is crazy.

 

The money on talks tot the politicians as long as their getting the votes to keep their place in office. If they only listened to corporations, and not voters then they wouldn't be in office for very long. They still need votes to stay in power, and as long as it stays that way then this country remains a democracy. Getting up protesting flooding a politicians office with phone calls and their email accounts with emails demanding that you want health care reform is going to send a message. If they don't listen they don't get elected, and if you speak out more against what they are doing it makes that much of a difference.

 

Peer reviewed scientific papers? Who do you think does the reviewing? Independent scientists? My white, freckled ass! Just look at the 911 commission report. Its director, Philip Zelikow served on the transition team of the bush administration, he wrote a draft memo for the setup of the bush administration's national security counsel, he wrote a preemptive war strategy that was eventually used in the war in Iraq, and to put a cherry on top he's a close friend of Condoleezza Rice. Just one example of who's behind the official 911 studies.

Lets look at somethings these scientific papers may have missed. First NORAD, our air defense system. In 2000 NORAD had 67 interception exercises, with 100% accuracy. So you're telling me they failed 4 times in one day? I would expect so since on the same day of 9/11/2001 a live flight hijack drill called vigilant warrior was being conducted at the same time of the attacks. There was only 8 available jet fighters and having to deal with as many as 22 possible hijacks they couldn't separate the wargame exercises from actual hijacks. What's really fascinating is in at least one of these exercises planes being flown into buildings was a scenario. Who was in charge of NORAD on the morning of 9/11? None other then D*ck f*cking Cheney. This information came from sources inside Norad and has sprung up in multitudes of websites. On 7/7/2005 in London three trains and a bus were bombed killing 56 people. That morning an anti-terror exercise was taking place dealing with the same bombing scenario at the same train station at the same time as was testified by Peter Power, one who took part in the exercise. Just naming some of the suspicious things that occurred during the events that perpetuated the war on terror. But why stop there?

What I would like to know is why the FBI confiscated the tapes taken by security cameras showing the pentagon attacks right as they supposively occurred. Why not reveal the tapes to the public if it would discredit those so called looney conspiracy theories? Very suspicious. Also what of Bush's relationship to the Bin Laden family before 9/11 even occurred? When George W. Bush first started his oil company it was Osama Bin Laden's brother and brother in-law who help funded it. Even on the morning of 9/11/2007 George Bush Senior was in a meeting at the Ritz Charlton hotel in Washington with Osama Bin Laden's brother. What the hell could they have been talking about? Who knows, but it seems suspicious to me that the eledged hijackers were linked to Osama Bin Laden and his Al Qaeda band despite the relationship the administration has with the Bin Laden family. Was he bait?

So why did the Bush administration ignore all the advance warnings of the 9/11 attacks? Warnings from FBI agents like Colleen Rowley and from the famous phoenix memo were not only ignored but they were suppressed. ****, FBI director John P. O'neill quit his job when his investigation of Osama Bin Laden was blocked. More of the strange and suspicious: according to a September 24th newsweek article top pentagon officials canceled their traveling plans for 9/11 because of security concerns ... ? Suspicious yet funny is that on the day of the attacks George W. Bush was informed while speaking to a class room in Florida, 3 months later he says on national television that he saw the first plane hit on t.v. in the class room, but that's impossible since footage of the first plane hit didn't surface until the next day. Are we electing idiots with the memory of a gold fish? I don't think so. There's also suspicious information on the owner of the world trade centers and of the eledged hijackers. Also, I want to know how do you account for the witness testimonies saying that it sounded and looked like bombs were going off before the towers collapsed. I mean you have news networks like CNN and NBC that were broadcasting some of the hundreds of witness reports of the explosions. Even the firemen and police were reporting it. How do you explain what they heard and saw? And how come I never saw these news reports shown on air? I don't care what bull**** "facts" are thrown around, they don't answer the most puzzling questions.

I can keep going if you want, I don't know how much more evidence needs to be spewed out before a rocket scientist goes "something's not right here" ... for f*ck sakes. Oh, and please spare me that this is off topic BS when it was you who changed the topic in the first place by calling me a 9/11 truther Higgs Bosson. This has everything to do with what's going on now and why we may never see universal healthcare unless we fight for it ourselves. It's truly a sad occurrence when someone gets put down by popular thinking for exposing what may and could be the truth. Hopefully the "truthers" will still reserve their right to say I told you so when martial law is declared.

In the end, I think I will go with what Thomas Jefferson said, "a true patriot must always be ready to stand against his government."

 

Honestly, Shogun this isn't a thread for your 911 rants. We already have one and your welcome to post this stuff in there. Also, I'm 100% sure Thomas Jefferson would beat the crap out of you for using his words to support this crap. The people responsible for 911 were terrorists, and they weren't paid nor operated under the US government. There is no evil conspiracy. No one is going to revolt against the government, and not every one who doesn't support your theories is working for the government. That being said.

Maybe republicans have the right idea?

 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-594683847743189197

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912

Support for ShoGuns arguements. Warning, a lot of footage in there. Some of it is against Christianity, but not actually offensive.

 

Wrong thread folks.

 

I am 100% sure that Thomas Jefferson would beat the crap out of Wildrow Wilson for surrendering the nation's economy to the hands of independent foreign bankers. I am also 100% sure that Thomas Jefferson would be stamping his feet in disgust as to why there hasn't been a full fledged revolt yet. What proof do you have that there is no conspiracy? I have provided enough evidence that strongly suggests there is a conspiracy and you want to BS with me? The republicans can accomplish no more then democrats can, particularly because they are on the same side working toward the same goal. I tell you, these politicians bullsh*t so much is has become like an art to them. So if you want real changes like health care reform best vote for someone who gives a damn, like the independent party! =D

 

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