US Presidential election. Opinions on outcome?

Why hello there Itzahexgore, please do not argue about my post

I think Barack Obama is going to win because almost all the polls I've seen so far for early voters show that Obama is in the lead by a fair amount of points. And yes, all it takes is one extremist to take him out, which means he'll need to be protected 24/7.

 

He'll be protected for the rest of his life, if he is elected, even after he isn't president anymore.

 

JFK was protected.

I think Jisse's just racist.

 

You can't go by polls alone though. There's about an 8-10% undecided amount there, and if McCain can get the majority of them and take back a couple more people before the election (which he will, no question about it), he could possibly squeak this one through. McCain has to really over perform for this one. It's a long shot, but it can still happen, hence why Obama's not in Chicago right now buying the champagne for his celebration party

My prediction is that McCain and Obama will be dead even in the popular vote, but Barrack will win out in the electoral college.

 

@ Light. Haha, quit going about labelling absolutely everyone as trolls.

@ Darktemplar_L. Thanks for the vote of confidence...

As for what you've said, I don't think being protected will solve it. All you've practically got to be able do is to see someone and you can potentially take them out.

@ Fenix. Yeah, JFK's a great example of that, and he was really popular amongst the population, wasn't he? Then there was also Lincoln, and I know there was at least an attempt against Reagan. There've obviously been tonnes of others, but they're the ones that I can recall off the top of my head. (Thank god for American Dad!)

@ Itsmyship. Yeah, that's true. Even masses fanatical McCain, though also Obama, supporters can still all be in favour of someone but not participate in the polls, etc. I guess the only poll you need to really pay any attention to is the election, haha.

@ Jisse. You're right. I did say that!

 

Itsmyship I am actually pretty sure if the two candidates are even in the popular vote Mcain will win. If the last two elections are anything to go by, Republicans tend to get more bang for there buck out of the popular than the Democrats do (remember the Democrats won the popular vote in 2000 and lost the election, but then again there were other tings at play there as well). If Obama wins (which I think and hope he will) I think the electoral votes will be close with the popular vote showing Obama as the clear victor.

Also, Itza and Jisse in two days this thread won't matter much anyways so stop going at each others throats.

 

Isn't this rather 15-25%?

Ok,
so I shall take it that if McCain win, it's because I am racist, right?
Haha.

 

He's not racist, just an idiot/troll. That's not a flame but an honest opinion based on what he writes. The best solution? Ignore his posts; not like there's anything worth reading in them. Unless you get off on watching the guy picks fights from behind his computer screen.

Obama's been up in the polls for weeks, he just ran some effective infomercials that feature families from swing states, even the editor of "The Weekly Standard" (Biggest conservative mag in the country) said McCain is screwed. Unless you believe in the Brady Effect it seems pretty clear who will be winning based on current polling.

I personally don't like either one of em'.

 

He is not an idiot. It should be quite clear from his other posts.

 

Haha.

Trolls...

Please do.

Oh yeah,
but much worth commenting eh?
Trolls haha.


So, how does it work exactly?
Shall the results be gently revealed along the whole day, when the votes are counted by the administrators/judges/whatever, or is there definitely no way to know any result before the ultimate, final, official announcement? Who define what in such event? Some TV channel? Some office? Some official people?

 

Obama won, he has 335 of those election guys, even though not all votes are counted yet, and there was some problem with some voting machines(selecting Obama registered your vote as for McCain)

i was expecting more of a close call, not such a landslide

 

Wow good job.

I read several articles days and weeks ago telling that there will be a slight part of the people who will change their minds at the very last minute, just because they are pussies and are actually afraid of any change, thinking that it is finally not that bad the way it is, and that it should rather be easier to get used to it instead of trying something else, but they were wrong finally, and I was wrong. Good stuff.

I don't really know now how the new government will deal with the current crisis, with the war in Irak etc, but I think this piece of news should strenghten the dollar for a while, and that this will be good for the education and most social things in the country, which is already overall some good news

The Bush era is over. Phew.

 

Awww, c'mon. As if you didn't expect me to do it.

At least you're man enough to admit you were wrong. And yeah, I heard this was pretty great for the economy. As for all the other problems, you can't expect someone to just come in and fix everything. As for the Iraq War specifically, it would be foolish to just instantly pull out. If they did, chances are there would just be a massive bloodbath as everyone fights to gain control. I believe it was wrong to invade, but it'd also be wrong to just instantly pull out.

 

I was twice wrong to be honest: first, I though McCain would win, with like 55% against 45% of the votes (for the people who voted), and even if Obama would win, I thought this would have been a tight 52% against 48%, something like that, and I would have made a joke about the name of the country, but if I understood correctly, Obama won with almost 60% of the votes (correct me if I am wrong, because I have still not understood exactly how it works), which is a double victory to me.

What I don't like in most democracies, is that the results of the presidentials are often like that:
A - 55% : 45% - B
A - 45% : 55% - B
A - 55% : 45% - B
A - 45% : 55% - B
A - 55% : 45% - B
A - 45% : 55% - B
etc
which says there is a problem to me, because none of the party can really work on their projects, as everything is everytime totally cancelled when the other party comes into place, and as the other parts of the governments are sometimes from the opposite party, which turns out to be a ridiculous waste of money, time and energy to me, with nothing ever completed, beyond hundreds of speeches about how good we are and how bad are our opponents. This is not a war between you and the opposite party you f#ck#ng idiots, this is about a country to run!

Let's see now how this will go. Obama sure has sh#t to do now. A big, huge, fat bunch of work to do.

Regarding the war in Irak, I just don't know: maybe would it be the most "natural" thing to just leave and leave the country to the people who live there? And if they are about to kill themselves to get the country, maybe this is just what they deserve? And maybe this is better this way, and this will surely save the lives of hundreds of soldiers who could be used a better way, and stop the country from spending soooooo much money into maintaining all those operations over there. They got the oil wells, fine, so maybe it's time to leave now?

 

most democracies?
ever checked holland, germany, france, italy, etc.?

 

The only real democracy is council communism/anarcho-syndicalism 3:

and yay obama :3

 

Just leaving the Iraqi people to fend for themselves will just destabilize everything that the U.S. and its Military branches have put major effort into. We are doing good in Iraq and I would hate to see eight years go to waste. If you have not noticed, there are fewer and fewer articles reported from the major "criminal" news networks. They just cannot seem to be finding enough negative stuff on our forces over there because of all our hard work. It saddens me that Americans think that solutions should be instant but the only way this war can be won is through attrition.

Major gains and significant changes have been made in Iraq but a good number of you don't know it or don't care for it anyway!

Well this is my opinion on the outcome of the U.S. Presidential election: Yay for voting to overthrow our own democracy! When Obama takes office in January, I hope to god that his "change" is for the better and I truly hope he doesn't attack our nuclear ally that is Pakistan!

History is repeating itself! Go defeatist democrats!

 

well, sadly but not suppriesingly, Obama won.

 

I'm happy he won. As critics have said, this is a huge step if not the final step towards destroying racism, and not just in the US.

 

I am very pleased that Obama won, as I wanted him to. I don't really like McCain, I think of him as a person who uses dirty tactics for some reason. He was a prisoner of war, so what, that doesn't mean you can run a country. I know he's old and with experience, he possibly could run it. But I think most people were against the "staying in Iraq for a hundred years if we need to" method. Also, I do agree with someone who said above me that if we pull out and it turns into a fight for control, then maybe this is what they deserve. It terrorists want to destroy the middle east, shouldn't Europeon and Asian countries over there help since they actually live there and not a few thousand miles away? I mean, if we can't even fix our own country, how can we help another?