USA Anti-Rocket System in Europe

Well Russia has dozen of radars across their and nearby countries. Since Poland and Czech Rep. are both members of NATO Russia has to count with that. (Besides, putting USA radar in southern Russia wouldnt be provocation... right.)

 

But seriously, how can I like something that wants to destroy communism and socialism, and rule the world. It just works more and more for some massive army that does nothing more but kill people for no real reason at all. And that makes me more angry than anything.

Btw, smileys are enourmous...

 

Well Sub, Putin was offering the US a radar station in Southern Russia, so its not rreally that much provocation.

Well Gm_K, the only real missions NATO has done since the Soviet Union collapsed have been Kosovo and Afghanistan. I don't really see them as murderers or wanting to rule the world....in fact many countries are starting to question NATO's relevance now anyway.

And yea...they are humongous. What ever happened to the old ones? We had some cool ones, like afro, and army, and I'm with stupid!

 

Yes damn NATO for stopping ethnic cleansing in Bosnia and Kosovo. The nerve of those people. Stopping the mass murder of thousands of innocent people? What gives them the right? AND they laughed at poor little Russia and vetoed Russia's attempts to get the UN to condemn the NATO missions in Bosnia and Kosovo.

 

I think the US should care more about it's own citizens. They spend more and more on other countries, and continue to cut federal financing for education and other social services. Being in the US, I think it's unfair that my own government seems to care more about other countries needs than our own. I say the gov't should cease trying to set up 'pretection' in other countries and worry about ourselves.


Also, the US gov't seems to have the ability to "misplace" billions of taxpayer's money every year and not go bankrupt.

 

I guess it wouldn't bother you to know these facts about the people in this world because why should we care about them? We're Americans. They should take care of their own asses. (sarcasm)

80% live in substandard housing
24% have no electricity
67% are illiterate
99% do not have a college education
50% are malnourished
1% are dying of starvation (thats 6.6 million people)
33% do not have a safe water supply
93% do not have access to the internet
75% do not have a roof over their head, clothes on their back, and food to eat
Around 1 million people will not live through the week

I bet you have all of those things. You clearly have the internet and I'm betting you plan on getting a college education. That means you're better off than 99% of the world.


Play Nice...

 

So its wrong to be happy about what I have, and not complain about things just because others are worse off?

I've seen all those figures before on this site, and others. And if I am better than 99% of the population, oh well. It's not like I decided to be raised that way, that was my parent's choice. So throwing figures at me won't do much as I have no say about my circumstances and cant do anything to help other's, no matter how much I'd want to.

Also, I dont have a college education yet, but it bugs me when I know others on this site in other countries that go to college almost for free, and I'm going to be stuck with a $70,000+ debt when I'm through. My financial future enough for my brain to worry about without having to worry about other's I've never seen/will see.

If it sounds harsh, then I'm sorry, that's just my view without it being all sugar coated etc.


I would like to hear what you said before LK edited it: most likely a personal attack or some more American Steriotypical bs.

 

Yes, its like Bush saying: Hey, why dont we install it in Poland and Czech Republic.
Thats at least what I think, but not like I think Putin is any better.

 

@paragon
while those stats are 90% true, you also must realizze something, namely this: when we give food to a poor country, the farmers in that country have to abandon their work and start working in fabrics, increasing the famine problem. Every item we give the third world isnt bought from their own stores, meaning that in a short time, those will e broke.

 

@EonMaster - Do you know why they have an "almost free" college education? Because people there pay a ****load of taxes. In quite a few of them it is over 50%. And they get this nice little value added tax to pretty much everything they buy and this tax is generally between 15-20%. Compare these to the income tax (between 10-35% with most people paying about 25%) and sales tax of the United States (which while different for each state is generally between 5-7%) people in the US have it good.

Also, I just graduated from college and I have absolutely no debt. And you want to know why? Intelligence displayed in high school which got me a $20,000 scholarship, smart fiscal planning, having an on-campus job during the school year, working every summer, and having another on-campus job the last year which paid for my room and board. In fact, far from being in debt I actually have $10,000 and I have no idea what to do with it.

And it isn't about you personally not doing anything to help. It's that you are advocating that the United States as a whole should not help.

@ijffdrie - You obviously don't know about all the missions to build up the infrastructures of lots of those poor countries so that the people can sustain themselves better and get better educations. And in many places there are various problems that make it so people either lost their harvest, can't plant crops this year, or just don't even have the resources to plant and tend crops. Problems like misguided land reform (Zimbabwe), drought (Sudan), natural disaster (Burma and all the countries hit by the tsunami in 2004), constant war and instability (Somalia and others).

 

why do I get the craziest feeling of deja vu?

yes

when you boil it down, in international politics, nobody is really clean or dirty, just a blinding shade of gray

 

ooh, yes, that is just a great reason to make all the farmers who had something unable to sell it, cause we well it for far less to nothing. And extra infrastructure stops people there from becoming roadworkers.
face it, the only thing we could do to help them is pay decent prices for their work

 

*ursawarrior derails thread*

ive always known that the source of poverty is failure of family planning

on topic, i think that bush needs to focus on his country first, although he wont hold his throne for long

 

Infrastructure and the building of that infrastructure makes jobs. Lots of jobs. We are providing resources to various countries and allowing the people of those countries to decide what gets built and then we work side by side with them to build it. The United States is building schools, building homes, building hospitals, digging water wells, and much more in less fortunate countries like Ethiopia, Kenya, Djibouti, Eritrea, and more. The people in those countries are very happy for the help that the United States is providing them.

 

yes, it makes jobs, but it also removes jobs by not giving the current roadworkeres in those countries any work, that way they will never be able to fully grow to

 

paragon the question is just: How much help is it giving them? Has Africa changed in the last past 30 years?
My parents are both past 50, and they say that the situation hasnt changed. I dont know how we can solve the problem, but I dont think all the money "we" are investing is helping. I think the corrupt rich people in those countrys is the biggest problem.

 

I live just a few hundred meters away from a bunch of US-Nato military bases. I have to look at them everytime I go home from school. It kills me. You should see them. Its awful.

 

@GM_k

I've lived around military bases all my life, and I've never been bothered by it. What makes the NATO bases different from other bases?

 

thats probably why you've never been bothered by it then

 

@furrer - The US has only been doing this in Africa since 2002. 6 years is not enough time to see some really major results. Before that the US strategy concerning Africa, just like the strategy of everyone else in the world concerning Africa, was to generally just ignore them.

@GM_k - hey remember when the US threatened to pull their bases out of Germany and Germany was like "no please don't pull your bases out" a few years ago. Thats because US bases (and NATO bases) rake in money for Germany because soldiers spend money there and if the bases were not there the soldiers would not be there to spend money.

@EonMaster - it's because GM_k has this teenage dellusion that he is a communist and that because he is a communist NATO is out to destroy him and his purported way of life. He'll probably grow out of this phase eventually when he realizes that communism, while seeming like an interesting concept on the surface, can only work with very small groups (like a small village) and can never be successful national, much less globally.