Visual Proof of Extraterrestrials

The New World Order, the organization that secretly runs the world. No, you can't get in, we've already filled all the seats, and we only play musical chairs on Fridays.

 

What a waste of time. I'm done with this thread.

Lock please.

 

You can lock your own threads. But would that be fine with them?

 

Understand, I want to believe. Most skeptics want to believe. However, they hate being deceived into false hopes based on shoddy evidence and speculation.

Done? Did you ever really start? You asked us to believe that because grainy videos with no association with NASA or even outer-space had indistinct blobs floating around, that meant that there were aliens. I'm sorry, but I can assure you that if comb enough grainy videos, you will find plenty of indistinct blobs floating around. It isn't even very hard to fake them, if you so choose.

 

Psionicz, why do you force lock on things? Why even create a thread if we can't talk about it? You're done with this thread, you were done with the "psychic powers" thread too... Yeah, when did you even start? Fuzzy videos=Aliens... You obviously knew you were going to get under attack or else why would you create this thread?

 

I was tired.

@wodan:
About the Nazca lines, I was hinting the fact that early man was not the one viewing them. Yes, they could easily make them, however no early man could see the actual image they created. So, who were they for? Tributes to the "gods"?

About NWO. There is nothing new about it, it is the same old order.

Now, here is the part which confuses me. Obviously, a bit of space dust on the screen changes speed and direction, due to it's lack of intelligence.

I am fine with discussing these things but people bring up invalid opinions and analysis, such as:

That serves absolutely no purpose to the topic, then someone wants to point me out for a "personal attack", totally disregarding everyone else.

Another response that was not thought out. Since when did I call "specks of dust" aliens? Is that all you're able to comprehend in the video, the floating things? Did you miss the pulsing orbs of light that change speed and direction? Another thing, since when was there "dust" in space?

Again, totally ignored the pulsing objects that sped past or slowed down to a stop in the atmosphere.

Those who control NASA do not want us to know of the truths that lie out there. They'd prefer we all act like this, people being illogical and attacking each other.
Then someone begins to troll and it goes off topic, just check page 4.

You have not backed up your opinion at all, you just throw an opinion and feel it has power over mine.

And constructively tell me about my entire beliefs?

Not in those times you dumb ****, have you totally ignored my continuous references to ancient civilizations?

Oh and ancient Egyptians had light bulbs before our time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkXJg2N-v1Q&feature=related

They were taught by their "gods" how to construct these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI7PJ9iBbKE&feature=related

Some Interesting Moon Footage 'Alien Moon, Why NASA Never Returned to The Moon:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjn10Of2hPs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnnEeIJQ4Wo&feature=related

Anyone got an extremely powerful telescope? LOL

 

Actually, they could.

Why not? Pretty popular thing to do back then anyways.

First, I'd suggest proving that the footage was actually taken in outer space. If you can prove that, next, prove that those specks couldn't have been added in after with ease. After all, if you suspect that there is a giant global conspiracy to conceal aliens, surely it isn't that hard for you to believe that someone might fake a video, especially a video that consists of blurry indistinct objects moving through a blurry, indistinct background.

Why, I ask again? Once again, I remind that it is very strongly in NASA's interest that they discover aliens, and that most of their employees would like nothing more than to discover aliens.

I'm sorry, but just because ancient people worshipped sky gods does not mean they worshipped aliens, it means they worshipped sky gods. There has yet to be evidence that anyone developed anything before their time, though its often surprising how far the Greeks and Romans were tech wise.

Um, why does showing me a video of one of those funny lamp things prove that the Egyptians have electricity? There is nothing to indicate it was made by the Egyptians, and that is hardly the kind of thing you would expect from a light bulb design.

That mural looks like a plant. The light bulb they built is not in the same measurements either, that lightbulb is supposed to be as large as person. Occam's razor says no.

NASA never returned to the moon after realizing that there was nothing worth seeing there, and that every time they wasted billions of dollars to get there, they determined that yes, it still has rocks there. They are more interested in Mars now, where they have successfully found water, and suspect that they might actually be able to find alien life the scientific way. Microscopic life, anyways. Got to head out soon, check the moon videos next.

 

How?

Do research on NASA STS mission.
[quote/Why, I ask again? Once again, I remind that it is very strongly in NASA's interest that they discover aliens, and that most of their employees would like nothing more than to discover aliens.[/quote]
Which is why such videos must be leaked.

History- His Story, tell us they worshiped mythical figures that didn't really exist just so we don't put our minds to such things thus remaining in a cloud of ignorance. The title of god was just the way they presented themselves to early man due to their superiority. You can look at most religious stuff and see clearly it was extraterrestrials sharing these things.

You seem to have missed the fact it is on the Egyptians' walls. How would they do all their alchemical science deep down in a dark crypt by use of fire with lower oxygen levels.

It was a simple test, no need to make it large scale since they did not wish to illuminate the whole room. They simply wanted to see if it was possible.

That is only what someone told you. However, you can believe what you wish.

 

uh...hm, wow.

When'dya get so interested in aliens, Psionicz?

 

My opinion does indeed have more power over yours because mine is backed up by --->EVIDENCE<-- and
--->SCIENTIFIC LOGIC<--- Where as yours is not.

Unless you physically want me to state the laws of the universe and point out how your beliefs do not correspond in anyway.. Which is rather silly would you agree?

 

no no no, please do.

itll be funnier when he attempts to dispute..

 

This is just text on a screen. Present evidence along with constructive communication of the information to back up your claims.

 

By standing on high surfaces.

Ok. While I'll admit that NASA did break one of those tether thingies, haven't seen anything to indicate that those videos were either genuine or untampered with. I also saw no indication of what NASA has to think about the images either way, but their supposed claim of ice crystals is reasonable given their behavior. The object pulsating isn't due to the object, but the camera, most likely.

Which is why such videos must be leaked.[/quote]
They would have leaked better videos then. Or none at all. I don't buy the argument that conspiracies are always capable enough to pull off immensely large scale subterfuge, but always miss the grainy videos. Its much easier to believe that the grainy videos are fake, or being misinterpreted for being something they are not.

Not seeing it.

Who says they did it at all?

Making a lightbulb in the vague shape of an egyptian mural of a palm frond does not prove anything.

No, it is what I concluded based on what makes sense. We have powerful telescopes, if there was really anything that interesting on the moon, it would be well known by now.

 

"BTW, the broken end of the tether was only about 55 feet from the camera, not 300 miles. The Shuttle cargo bay is only 60 feet long and the broken end of the tether was just above the deployment reel near the rear of the bay.

If you took a few minutes to learn about optics, you would know what this is. The Notch UFO is simply and afocal image of the field stop of the lens system. I saw this even happen live on NASA Select and there is nothing there but small pieces of debris from the tether shorting out electrically and breaking I have posted a video call Notch UFO-1 that illustrates this principle, but it won't link to this page as a video response. You'll have to search for it if you don't want to die ignorant."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOJXlFR3yYc&feature=channel_page

Not to mention that most of what you've shown is images so simplistic that they could easily be made with software.

 

Well, drawings shaped like light bulbs could just be pottery that they made... Psionicz, you have to think about other possibilities. Some of those videos have real evidence, but most of them are easily dismissable.

Another response not well thought out? I could say the same about you. Also, if you didn't know this, space isn't truly empty. There are particles of many sizes floating throughout space. Ever heard of a meteor? Ever heard of solar wind? Like wodan46 said, the videos could be faked and don't you see how fuzzy everything is?

So Psionicz, you are saying that ancient people worshipped these extraterrestrial beings and based religions on them? Then you must mean that Christianity is actually worshipping aliens, which means millions of people have been duped of the real meaning of their religion.

 

please lets not drag modern religion into this, i dont want to turn this into flamefest

anyways, as i said before, something we cannot understand does not equal extraterrestrial, the same goes for ancient religion, just because we dont understand how people could think that doesnt mean that they were convinced to do so by aliens

 

We can understand it, our historians, government bodies etc. are just full of ****. However, I'm not trying to convert your views. If you choose to refute this material then it is fine by me.

Oh, and wodan. Here is a video on the Nazca lines:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHwN8_qa2c8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FZUYNPQWHY&feature=related

Educate your self.

 

On what basis should we take your word over theirs? As I've stated before, it is not the slightest bit surprising that people would come up with conspiracy theories, due to basic human nature. That it should occur a lot does not indicate that there is some truth to it. On the other hand, it would be very surprising if the government was pulling off an impressively large scale conspiracy on multiple levels, in spite of it being quite clear from the past that the government really doesn't have that much in the way of organization and control.

So in short, I can believe one of the following about what you have shown me:
1. A conspiracy theory caused by people seeking patterns and seeing them where they aren't in grainy footage that may or may not have been altered by someone else.
2. A large scale government conspiracy, that would require 100s of disparate people to operate in an environment of utmost secrecy and often against everything they believe in, where the only evidence that slips through their fingers would be a couple of grainy videos.

Note that as the video I offered showed, its pathetically easy to fake such an event.

Knowledge of numerology indicates that it is pretty easy to spot impressive patterns that aren't real, all you need to do is comb through enough material. My guess is that there are many videos of such things as you have shown, and that in some of them, it becomes obvious that the ice crystals are just that.

Keep in mind that the "UFOs" are within the spaceship throughout the entire course of the video, you are severely misjudging the scale.

On a school computer right now. Will look later.

 

Person one: Hey, London doesnt exist.

Person two: Yes it does

Person one: Give proof that it does then.

Person two: I have been there.. i bought back a map with me

Person One: Thats not proof.

Person two Its been proven that it exists ffs, look, here is a website which gives holidays for London.

Person one: Thats just text on a screen. Doesnt prove nothing.

Person Two: ...


Psi. The day you learn how evidence works, is the day i will smile.

 

You still have only presented your opinion without evidence to back it up.