Which religion are you?

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Which religion are you?

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by TerranGod, Oct 15, 2007.

  1. ijffdrie

    ijffdrie Lord of Spam

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    no, prolly not, but than i think, why would you follow the bible's standards if the stories are not true?
     
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    They also said that Bible is not book on biology or geography, but religion.
    In other words, it would be just as possible that human indeed evolved from apes, but at some point in time God gave them souls.
     
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    I'm pretty sure animals got souls too, cause my cat sure got personality

    anyway i dont believe in religon
     
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    Yeah, throw rocks at your wife 'till she's dead if she cheats on you.
     
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    Well, I am baptised an Orthodox, buuut we really don't believe everything the Bible says is to be taken seriously.
     
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    Pastafarian.

    In all seriousness, I probley rank along the lines of an Agnostic. Just don't know. :p
     
  7. EonMaster

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    The stories may not be true as the Bible tells them, but many things it addresses did happen back then: stoning, persecution, master/slave, etc. Also, the Bible can be seen as a book that teaches morals and responsibility to those who would otherwise have no other easy way to learn them.
     
  8. ItzaHexGor

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    I just got a quick question, and I don't intend for it to be proof that they don't exist or anything, I'm just curious as to whether there is an answer. If god and jesus were heaps involved in the past, why did they just suddenly stop? Is there a reason for it? Or did their involvement gradually come to a stop?
     
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    They didn't really stop. According to Revelations and Matthew, Jesus will return again. I dunno when that is though.
     
  10. ItzaHexGor

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    Is that where all of the 'second coming of jesus' jokes come from?
    They used to supposedly be fairly involved in the past didn't they? Now there hasn't even been a glimpse of them for the past 300+ years. But to be fair I guess there have been sightings and interactions, but the people who claim that they've had such a sighting or interaction are usually less that reputable. Speaking of which (I'm not sure that I should be mentioning this in a thread about religion) who here believes in aliens? I'd find it hard to believe that out of all the suitable planets out there, that there wouldn't be at least one that has traces of life. Even if it is only at a bacterial level.
     
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    The next time Jesus comes to Earth will be Judgement Day, but the day and hour are supposed to be unknown
     
  12. ijffdrie

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    lol, i will be waiting for it, always wanted to ask him some questions
     
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    @ItzaHexGor

    They are involved in such situations in the past, but it still took a lenghty amount of time before they get involved in another thing.

    And yes, that's where people get about them Jesus' second coming jokes.

    And yes. I also believe that there are extraterrestrials out there. I mean, it's a big universe but its just a waste if there were no other lifeforms benefiting from them.
     
  14. ItzaHexGor

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    Hehe, gotta love Futurama and it's 'second coming of jesus' and 'zombie jesus' jokes, but that's slightly off topic.
    Also, if god/the gods has/have interacted in the past, what's stopping him/her/it/them from making a global appearance proving that he/she/it/they is/are the only god/gods, so that everyone knows which religion to follow?
     
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    How does it go in English? "Blessed be those who did not see and believe" ?
    I think that uncertainity is the point here.
    Either that or there is no god, I wouldn't know
     
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    Blessed are those who did not see and believe... No offense to anyone but that sounds like a pretty dumb thing to say. It's like saying, there is no proof about this but if you'll believe it anyway then you're awesome.
    I feel that if there is a god, then it's up to him/her to prove to me that they're worth worshiping. So far, they haven't shown me any sign of their existence, so there is no reason in me worshiping any of them.
     
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    This is what the Bible says (not exact quote, I didn't read it in English).
    The proof is supposedly Jesus, his teachings and miracles he did in the past.
    Anyway in my opinion better way is to weigh choices. If you believe in God and follow his words, you have a vision of eternal happiness. If you don't, you just die and that's it, the end. Even if you believe and it turns out there's nothing after death, you won't be there to complain anyway. It's all about giving hope, trying to give life some sense and introduce some morals while you're at it.
    Though I'm probably not one to say...
     
  18. ItzaHexGor

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    I weigh my options a bit differently.
    If I did believe in Christianity, and it was true, then after I die and enter heaven, only one or two of my mates would be there, because all the rest are either Atheist or believe in another faith. So when I serve my time in heaven, a lot of that time would be spent grieving because I've got to spend the rest of forever without my old mates, without my brother or sister and other relatives, without any pets, etc.
    If I did believe in Christianity, and it was false, then I'll have spent a large portion of my life going to church for no reason, praying for no reason, going to scripture for no reason, etc. I don't know how long church is supposed to go for, but just say that it's an hour each Sunday. One hour a week, with 52 weeks each year, and with the average life expectancy of in Australia being about 81 years would mean that I'd waste half a year of my life just being in church. That might not sound like a lot to you guys, but remember that that is half a year straight, without sleep or anything. I'd rather spend that time doing something worthwhile.
    If I didn't believe in Christianity, and it was true, then it would be no different to if I didn't believe in Christianity and it was false. I'm quite content with just dying. Not that I want to die, but when I do I'm happy with the concept of that being the end, and believe me when I say that it's a difficult concept to get your mind around. I also feel that Atheists have more incentive to make the most of their life. After all, they believe that their time is limited, but someone who believes in a god or heaven believes that they'll live forever after death, so it wouldn't matter if they waste a bit of their time on earth.
    Lastly, I'm glad that I won't live forever. I feel that living forever would be more of a curse than a blessing.

    I often use this quote when talking about this or when talking about how the male life expectancy is lower than the female life expectancy, more as a joke than an argument but I still feel that it bears some truth: "It is better to leave early than to outstay one's welcome" :p
     
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    1. This is false, but you probably don't know. From what I know Christianity defines Happiness as being in the presence of God and that all a human (soul) needs. So if it's true, you would be happy, no matter if you had your friends with you or not. (I'm not very fond of this idea myself -.-)
    2. Why for no reason? You do it all to earn your place in Heaven, if it turns out to be false, you will be gone before you learn that it was in vain.
    3. If you don't believe and it turns out to be true, I believe it depends, if you were good imo you should end in Purgatory from which there is only one way - up. If no then...well you'd better be just dead ^^'
     
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    Well, personally I don't like going to church even though I'm a Christian. I don't really get along with people with extreme "holiness".

    Going to church is just like, say, going to a drug addiction seminar. You go to that seminar to listen and understand what drugs do to your health, social life, etc. You go to that seminar to just, educate yourself and gain more knowledge. That's how church works. You read or study the Bible, and if there are things you don't understand, attend church. That simple. You don't have to waste time hanging out in church even though you already know what the preacher's preaching. But the choice is still yours if you attend church or not.

    The thing here is, so maybe it's true that being a Christian or believing in a god, for that matter, is just wasting time. But I still believe that sometime in everyone's life, he would ask himself, "What if?" "What if there's really a god? What if I go to hell when I die?"

    Believing in a god always gives someone a sense of security, hope and basis for right living.