Which religion are you?

i dunno,it is just my THEORY.I mean it is incredible to think that after being maybe a nice person in earth ,u still mourn in heaven ,it is not fair right?i believed in reincarnation though.

 

It's not fair if you aren't allowed to mourn. Mourning is natural. I'd hate to think that after the person who I care about most in the world dies, that I won't even care about it.

 

Okay. I dont believe in "Here's what you can do" and "Here's what you can't do" and "Don't do this, but definately do that." If you want to lead a risky life go ahead, if you die prematurely maybe it's because God wanted you to. As long as you are a good person, I believe it doesn't matter what you do and don't do (besides like, murder and rape), you could go to Heaven. It's not like "If you smoke or skydive or do anything risky like that it's a sin and you'll go to hell"...no. Be a good person and to what God put you on Earth to do. What happens in between won't matter. We all sin, but not everyone is going to hell right? That's what I believe.

 

Itza you still on it?
According to Christian religion in Heaven you're always happy, that's just how it is. No one is going to tell you how it happens, you lose memory, are reincarnated or maybe humans are just created the way they are happy in presence of God; just like you can't prove wether there actually is God, you can't tell what the Heaven is like unless you get there. Imo you're overdoing logic

 

@ jrc3234. I was talking about why Christians don't try to get into heaven quicker. I've already been told that suicide is a sin, so that wouldn't work for them. The next thing they could do is lead a purposely risky life, hoping that they might die quicker as a result, and then be able to enter heaven.
@ Meee. I'm not still going on about it, Zacron resurrected that topic but hadn't read the other posts relating to it, so I had to explain it to him again.

 

Religion?
I subscribe to one religion, and one religion only.
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I personally think that religion is based more on astrology than anything else. More fiction that fact. I mean it's based on the Zodiac (12 signs) and this just happens the be the number of disciples Jesus had, and Jesus was 12 years old when... He was baptized? i think. the number 12 comes up a lot more too.

 

Not to be blunt, templar, but that made absolutely no sense at all. Why are you making connections between the Chinese zodiac and Jesus? The two have nothing in common. And how is religion more fiction than fact? The Bible is all true stories that people wrote.

And by the way, I am Catholic.

 

The post did make sense. He was commenting that the number twelve is unusually common in the Bible.
This can be done with a lot of events though. Did anyone here get the chain-mail about September 11? I don't remember it precisely but it noted a recurring theme of the number 11. Not that I believed it, there were a number a things they omitted. Anyway, that's besides the point.
Also, even though there are many true stories in the Bible, mainly historical recounts, most have non-religious explanations. There are also many stories which are just not true, Noah's Arc being an example.

 

Or the water to wine thing. Though this would be a cool power to have.

 

I've also seen many examples of 666 recurring in relation to Bill Gates

DarkTemplar just to clear things out a bit. He was baptized when he was already an adult. When he was 12, he was brought to a temple.

 

Hmm

@Itz

leading a risky life for the purpose of dying quicker would be the same thing as suicide. Because your still consciously trying to get yourself killed.

 

Smokers aren't always trying to get themselves killed. They deliberately smoke, and smoking kills, but they aren't deliberately killing themselves. Same with speeding, excessive drinking, etc.

 

Smoking and excessive drinking are generally sinful because you are corrupting your body which is supposed to be the temple for Jesus as we take him during communion. And speeding is against the law which is generally frowned upon but I'm not sure if its sinful, maybe a venial sin but probably not.

 

That brings me back to what I mentioned before. If smoking is a sin, why do any Christians smoke?

 

Why do tey fight, get angry, envy each other or commit other sins?

 

That's my point. If doing this will prohibit Christians from entering heaven, why do they do anything like that in the first place? Surely avoiding all of these sorts of things, no matter what the consequences, is worth it if it means you can spend eternity in heaven.

 

Honestly, I am really not anyone religion even though I pray.

I do believe how you act in this life will reflect in your afterlife. I mean its common sense or even human nature to believe that say a murder would have a different fate than ghandi or mother tersea. I think it would kind of suck fi not don't you think? That brings up a whole other bunch of ideas and questions though like if you knew there were no consequences what so ever for actions would you still act and conduct yourself like you are now? I think how people act and behave over the Internet is similar to this because you are anonymous and it doesn't matter what you say or do. So you can get an idea of their true personality.

Another thing that I believe in is that fighting over religion is futile and pointless since everything is relative. You'll believe what you think to be true and right, etc and what is right or wrong to you might not be to someone else but then what makes it right? There are many questions that this brings up and Religion can answer it for some people and that is where the conflict lies.

I'll end with one last interesting question....what would you do if God himself came down and said this is how it is and this how things work (and for sake of the question, this is the real god and you know he is the real one etc.) and it was completely different from any religion or ideal known to man in all of history how would you react and also react to have been believing in one of the current faiths that has obliviously been proven false.

 

I believe that there isn't a consequence in another life or afterlife or whatever, but there are consequences in this life. Even if a murderer is not caught, they'd have to spend the rest of their life looking over their shoulder. They could never feel safe. Spending a lifetime life that definitely is not worth it. Murder is both the crime and punishment.
I'm an Atheist and I strongly believe that once you die, that's it. You're gone. Nothing more happens. I think of it in a variety of ways. Firstly, have you ever gone to bed and felt that as soon as your head hits the pillow you wake up? Once you've woken you feel that no time has elapsed between you falling asleep and waking up. This is similar to how I imagine death. It's not as though you spend a lifetime of blackness or anything, there is no time because you do not exist. It's just like an eternity of one of these sleeps. The second way I think of it, which more people can relate to, is this. Everyone knows that humans can only see what's in front of them. Now try to picture what is outside of your vision. To the far left and far right of the edges of your peripheral vision. There is absolutely nothing there. Anyway, that went on a bit longer than I anticipated. The point is that even though I believe that there are no consequences, I still try to be as good as possible. Just recently I've started doing the 40 Hour Famine (a donation of $5 feeds and cares for a child in need for a month!), and I've donated blood (it only pinches a bit when the put the needle in and take it out. Apart from that you just lie down in a comfy chair). I've encouraged my parents to sponsor a World Vision child, which I also contribute towards. There is no point in just living a pointless, carnal life, where you're only goal is to fulfill your most primitive desires. Every donation of blood has a chance at saving someone's life, as does donation to the 40 Hour Famine, and other charities. Doing this has given me much more enjoyment and a greater sense of accomplishment than if I'da just sat on the couch, eating chocolate, watching T.V or playing on the compy. There does not need to be an afterlife to effect how someone acts while they're alive. I feel that, because I won't have an eternal life after this, I've got to accomplish what I can, while I can, whereas other who do believe in an afterlife might think that they have another eternity to do what they want, so they waste the time they have now.
I'm aware that fighting over religion is futile, but discussing it is not. In talking to others on this forum about religion (especially with don_bocci) I have actually learnt a great deal about different morals, values and beliefs. Also, if you enjoy an interesting conversation, and find discussions on religion interesting, why not talk about it?
If God was to come down and prove his existence, then I would follow him. There's no reason to still believe in something that has been proven wrong. However, until that day, I'm a devout Atheist. If god doesn't value me or my family and friends enough to prove to us that he exists, then he isn't worthy of our worship. For example, if someone told you not to turn around because there is a Ferrari behind them and if they don't look for most of their lief then they'll be able to keep it, would you turn around or would you just believe it's true?

 

Nobodies perfect, as far as sin goes it would be impossible to live your life without ever sinning, which is why we have confession. And if you mean to kill yourself being worth it to go to heaven then it wouldn't cause you would very likely not go to heaven as killing is a mortal sin. At the very best you may spend a large amount of time in purgatory.

And anyway one of the larger reasons that killing yourself is sinful is because God works through us so taking your life before it is God's will that you go to heaven just isn't smart. Anyway getting to heaven faster would be a lovely thing, but some costs are just to high.